It is me trying to extend an olive branch to you. everytime I have described the socialist ideal, you say its not socialism and that actual socialism is defined by authoritarianism. Its an endless cycle until someone lets go of their definition. I just tried to concede that but even then you are unwilling to move forward. So I have made a tremendous effort to move forward with you but every one of your post is either based on personal attack or semantics. Luckily, I have the patience of an educator and will try to have an actual discussion. I haven't redefined anything but am willing to operate in your definitions because without common definitions of words, we can't have a conversation.
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I will start from scratch back on topic. You said socialism wasn't the only way to achieve....
(everyone was entitled to work their own fields, raise their own animals and so on)
I really just want to revert to the topic and the answer to the question:
If not by socialism (other than workers owning their means of production), how else can this be achieved?
If your answer is going to involve the words socialism, capitalism, communism, don't you think it would be helpful if everyone knew what you were talking about when you used those words?