While i appreciate discord, if i made my earlier post on discord, i won't be surprised if my account is immediately banned for quote on quote fudding, i have dealt with that on several project discord/telegram. So in the spirit of maintaining transparency/freedom of speech, some of us prefer a public forum with limited censorship.
Instead of posting on Discord what you did here you should just pay a visit and research a bit. Go back to the inception in the threads. I think you may change your mind. I did that and did change my mind. I'm a big time skeptic of ANY coin today. Research erased that.
Just a suggestion.
I really didn't say anything about them not delivering on the promises/project been a scam. Just that i find it weird that they feign an ignorance of the reason for the fud/hate and making claims that haven is a scam when they intentionally interjected the haven title in their name (for free publicity) and made plans to emulate haven's protocol (again for free publicity)
Like i said they could have named this project candida, grown it organically and implemented all those promises, but they intentionally took short cuts to co-tail a well known project. Simple as that. I will check out their discord later, but it can't really change the stance of my post, cos its not directly related.