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Re: Merit & new rank requirements
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JayJuanGee
on 27/11/2018, 02:03:14 UTC
⭐ Merited by PoolMinor (1)
I found the new ranking requirement is not logic. It requires way too many merit points in order to gain higher rankings. For example, I am a Member now, and from Member to Full Member:

Requirements:
   Member   60   10
    Full Member   120   100


I need 60 posts and 90 Merit points. How many posts I can get 90 merit points? Well, some posts I just reply to other people's posts, with my comments, for those, I probably get no merit points. I need to post long and original info or thoughts in order to get merit points. Say every 3 posts I get 1 merit point, I'd do 270 activities to get 90 merit points, and this is probably the best scenario, and admin will need to notice every of my good posts  Kiss


Meanwhile we see accounts of "Sr. Members" with 250 merits and barely 300 posts only because they were registered before you

And those accounts work as a source of possible scammers for newbies

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This is how the ranking system should be imho:
5 merits + 100 posts - Jr. Member
10 merits + 200 posts - Member
20 merits + 300 posts - Full Member
50 merits + 500 posts - Senior Member
100 merits + 1000 posts - Hero Member
250 merits + 2000 posts - Legendary Member

Without the free merits from signup date


You seem to NOT understand.

Even though I understand what you are attempting to say, there are no "free merits"

The merits that were distributed on January 24, 2018 were an attempt to approximate merits that members should have based on then rank and recent activity as of then.

It's a concept called grandfathering, and which does not mean that you start over (like you seem to be suggesting) but intending NOT to take away anything from members who were operating under the previous system (that did not have merits, as you recognize).

Look at this account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106181

249 posts
250 merits
No merits received or sent in the last 120 days lol

You seem to want to change the topic and drag the situation into some kind of mud that was not even a part of your original post.

If members ranked up in accordance with the previous system, then they are not going to be deranked merely because they are not active under the current system, unless theymos makes new poliies regarding those kinds of issues, which does not seem likely.

The issue we have here, or your beef, seems to be how theymos had credited accounts with merits at that time of the new system, which is largely already explained in OP and really has been hashed out already in terms of criticisms that seems to have caused a few additional tweaks, but largely has been considered to be overall a fair balance to transition from the old system to the new system.   


And they have the audacity to say I need to earn 100 merits just to become a full member, and I can't even ask for them or I get banned, this just makes me feel like:
1) I should leave the forum, because it's not worth it
2) Or I should buy an account, but I don't want to since I am not a scammer

Again, new points that you are making, and bringing up some other issues.  Actually, how many merits you need and the policies regarding merits are largely set by admin, so it does not matter what any other members say about it, except you seem to NOT like what they are saying because they are just informing you of the current policy. 

Of course, you can choose whether or not to continue as a forum member under the current system and whether you believe the forum to provide value to you.


Admin should understand that every post makes him earn more traffic and therefore money in the long term, every post directly or indirectly feeds the platform and the community. You shouldn't work on a way to obstacle new members but on a way to obstacle scammers, for example by spreading escrow and middleman services across the website, rather than letting people deal with sketchy PMs.

I doubt that there is any intention to burden new accounts, and of course, if a forum is built, admin is going to understand that part of the value of the forum has come from the contribution of members over the life of the forum and continuing incentives to contribute.  I doubt that those considerations  of the value of member contribution would be lost on the admin(s) of this forum.

Hell you could even have a contract system moderated by the source of merits, but no you decided to punish all new members for the abuse of some.

Again, it does not appear that the merit system was created to punish or burden all new member, but instead as a means to lessen the farming of accounts and shit/spam posting.  So your claims seem to go a bit far in terms of what you are proclaiming the merit system policies to be causing.