yes 8%pre-mine, but im sure if he has been selling it is nearly sold if not all, so a community takeover could be in the best interest, for the coin, as soon as news of the mac wallet was working came through, there was a sell wall from .22-.30 it got eaten up in a sec, so i guess we have the interest and buyers, we just need the team, im holding onto mines expecting something much better than what happen on fedora coin