i appreciate the reply. do you know of any members that will do a loan for domains? the domain has legitimate value, not inflated estimate value or anything. the two offers i have standing both came within 24 hours of soliciting it to vc firms, the lowest still being in the high x,xxx range. i'm looking for roughly $1500 loan. could get by with $1100 with ability to repay in full on january 05 with up to 20% interest. if you know anyone who may be willing, perhaps let them know to contact me. domain has been registered for six months so no risk of anything funky going on with disputed registration payments or anything.