As a reader, programmer and researcher, I can sit here all day and destroy the idiots and the obvious bullshit in this thread, as most should be able tell, is just promotion and investment based talk.

The obvious sign would be that the "for" crowd don't have a point or clarity in anything they say, yet they're literally minute by minute announcers of promises and good news, while failing miserably on even the basics that are not investment based arguments. Eth makes penny stock traders look like princesses.