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Re: BiblePay✟CPU✟Governance✟Help Orphans✟PODC Cancer Mining✟Deflationary✟Masternodes
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bible_pay
on 04/12/2018, 14:21:08 UTC
Like I said, I have a huge heart for PODC and love the mission, but I still have a strong feeling that we've gone away from our core mission - and will end up primarily supporting new users and science with valuable time that could potentially be used for witnessing/gospel mission/spreading Jesus.  And of course, organic growth.  

Anyway, moving on to your concern about 5 year olds, I strongly disagree that POG2 is as hard as PODC.  Its an utter fallacy.  I wrote out just some of the acronyms off the top of my head a few pages back (for PODC) and its simply the truth that a new user would not only need to delve into crypto, mining, but also into all these other things that they might not really care about.

But let me get to my point, the main advantage to POG is that every single element related to block solving/mining/rewards is within the wallet in a hard and signed way - meaning that new users get a copy of the wallet, they receive 500 bbp from the faucet (or whatever), they tithe, the rewards are given within the integrated pool, and there are no third party pieces of infrastructure (no passwords, no accounts, no contracts, no magnitude, no third party helper sites, no need for support) etc, and this means a tight money supply - all emitted coins are signed and therefore there can not be any leakage or mistakes made (with pools or anything).  This would satisfy Satoshi and some of the bigger investors that might be making a pause to trust that we dont leak any coins anywhere.

Finally, as far as explaining it, its really a piece of cake.  If you experimented with our wallet for one night with POG you would be mining.

Its as simple as:


1.  Download wallet.
2.  Collect faucet reward.
3.  Enter two settings in config file (genproclimit=1 and tithe=10) <- NOTE: We will definitely automate these things once we know how testing is working in testnet
4.  Start the miner

For the advanced user, they will just type getminininginfo and learn about a few new fields (how tithe_difficulty effects their ability to tithe).

These are basic concepts, and people need to wake up - A 5 year old really could mine biblepay and get the money for the first purchase from Mom Smiley.


Except, if Difficulty is at about 32K, then the 500 they get from a faucet will

1) Not be 30 days old for 30 days
2) Never exceed the 12,500 BBP balance they need tithe

In short, the higher the difficulty (which by logic will trend towards the 32K level which is the break even level), the less likely a new user can easily participate.  This would likely cause confusion on why the PoG was not working for them, and for a neophyte computer user, would likely be enough to frustrate them out of the coin.  Meanwhile, a certain faction of our users would likely create 1000 new wallets with 18K BBP in them to get extra rewards (waiting out the time limit as experienced users and selecting enough to perpetually fund the system while it was profitable to do).

Except you forgot that pool payouts are daily and the pool reward is re-used as a new tithe over and over - so this is also inaccurate.  If we work together this simple "problem" (which I suppose isn't a problem) can be solved.

On creating new wallets, I guess you didn't read the wiki, so yes, this is also inaccurate (unless you want to waste your time and create 1000 wallets for no reason).

As far as "breakeven", the entire difficulty range is 'profitable' from a mining standpoint (we pay 1-2 mil a day for rewards and collect 100k per day in tithes) - so I wouldnt assume 32767 is the breakeven, as your not taking into consideration the coin age required to push up to 32767 - it might be somewhere between 1000 and 32K but I think we are both guessing without making a simulation.  The answer lies in how many users have coin-age available on a given day.

I recommend trying to work with us to help the newbie get involved with potential solutions in testnet - why hurt the new users?