these people are real Pro's
they are.. pros of powerpoint
selling the idea is what they are pros of.. delivering isn't really much of a concern. They have plenty of CYA excuses to reduce expectations.
Do you know how much nonsense goes on in corporate conference rooms that keep kicking ideas around to justify 6 month contracts and year-to-year capex budgets? It's sickening. That is the world these folks are from