it's funny you bring up 2+2. i played a lot of online poker back in 2010-11 and i was a regular on the 2+2 forums. those forums were actually my first exposure to bitcoin. everyone made fun of it, so i never took it seriously.

the US government shut down my main sources of income around that time---pokerstars and full tilt. a year later, i was buying bitcoins. not because i knew anything about the technology but because i could play poker on seals with clubs with BTC and not worry about banking problems. the poker sites still serving the USA kept having money seized, checks would always bounce, etc

seals with clubs was kind of a bust but i became a bitcoiner after that. it was really empowering. i don't think the 2+2 crowd ever really wrapped their head around it.