Diluting the DT list (=adding more DT users) would reduce that PITA.
Please explain to my pea brain how this would be so. Also, how would this affect the ability of DT members to warn others? Also also, I thought you wanted to get rid of the DT system altogether.
If there were more DT members, the chances that someone else had already tagged a scammer increase, etc. I assume that the "workload" for DT'ers is the source for the pain in your ass.
Whoever trusts DT would still see your warnings as "trusted feedback".
I'd prefer ditching DT completely. That doesn't mean that I couldn't suggest changes to DT.
Vod threatened
Yes, I know you've said this ad nauseam across multiple threads. Sorry I brought it up.
It's an example of what sort of "mild, unpunishable" wrongdoings are done by DT members. I can find out many more. Often these things are discussed to the point where it's only frustrating to everyone, so maybe this fresh experiment is enough to get the point? I could bring up cases regarding or brought up by e.g. Deadterra, Lauda, mexxer-2, Lutpin, OgNasty, escrow.ms, etc. etc., but it would only end up like discussions regarding those cases ended before: in frustration, no changes (or small changes after insane amount of arguing), and wasted time.
I think the "
Force custom lists" idea by theymos is the best step forward. I think that a less dramatic change would be to dilute DT, add a lot more DT1 members, and see what happens.
I did see that thread, and I'm not sure how forcing newbies to create a trust list would work, and they're the ones most likely to fall for scams around here, IMO. As to adding more DT1 members--did I miss how those would be chosen? Theymos would have to pick them, since he doesn't like the voting strategy, so it just seems like the DT system would end up being more of a clusterfuck than it already is, unless the DT1 members had to keep very strict trust lists. Diluting the DT2 pool seems like it would end up with more people with more power, more headaches, more internecine squabbles, more bitching about wrongly-left feedback, and more chaos.
Or have I got my math wrong again?
It could go as you describe, but I doubt it. I'd argue that more decentralization in the DT would end up in more balanced outcome. More people with more power would mean less power per single DT user. The current amount of power that DT'ers carry is way too much compared to what is needed to simply warn newbies about scammers.
Why don't you just post everything with a dedicated thread in reputation? I believe that will be worthy for sure. Everyone will see what is happening here in the name of DT. You should post the proof.
Go read the Reputation and Scam accusations boards. Dive deep into the history. Feel free to compose a list of all the DT'ers who scammed and also try to find out when they were removed from DT if at all.
Would really appreciate having some links. Since you are an old member here, it will be pretty easier for you to link up.
For example check out
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1995886.0,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.0 and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.0 where a DT user scammed. There are loads and loads of cases there.
It's not hard to find DT abuse (not just scams) in there. It just takes time to really go through this stuff. There are only like 60-70 pages in Reputation where this material mostly resides. Scam accusations board is the other one.