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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: no proofs they still have money
by
normana
on 26/01/2019, 17:00:34 UTC
no no, totally false. 9 million with a 1.1 million dollar villa. so, now they have less than 8 million usd. do the math ok? also they never gave proofs if they have these funds or not. they never published btc and eth addresses. we don't believe scammers again. no proof, no argument. transparency report is dogshit like nimiq. i can post also on medium that i am billionaire. with no proof i am broke.

I already deducted the 1.1 Mio USD real estate from the total 9.9 Mio USD, but then it still is a 8.8 Mio USD (or after rounding 9 Mio USD), not less than 8 Mio USD...

It's easy to find their ETH address because of the nature of ETH.
- If you check their token sale contract, you can read from the contract and find the 'ethFundDeposit' address '0xefa351d189c367d109859afdf6f3d17eeb0825a5', which is a multi-signature wallet
- At the time of the transparency report (end of july 2018) '0xefa351d189c367d109859afdf6f3d17eeb0825a5' had a balance slightly above 10k ETH. This is near the claimed amount of 9.5k ETH mentioned in the transparency report.
- On Aug 27, '0xefa351d189c367d109859afdf6f3d17eeb0825a5' transferred 5.4k ETH to another multi-signature wallet at '0x847c590d780913b394290295a26ea172e12ffbf1', through transaction '0xa1a227497c108f6e8784c7c080789a9d6c45d29cfa4166c10058baab5c683250'. There was a discussion around this transfer at that time and the team confirmed it to be an internal transaction (and not as rumored, a payment for Binance)
- At the time of the AmA (Jan 11) '0xefa351d189c367d109859afdf6f3d17eeb0825a5' had a balance of 1k ETH and '0x847c590d780913b394290295a26ea172e12ffbf1' had a balance of 5.4k ETH, so a total of 6.4k ETH. This is also near the claimed amount of 6.5k ETH mentioned during the AmA.

I already did these checks when I first saw their claims and I bet others did as well. Everyone can verify all my findings easily through etherscan.
Of course the fact that they were not lying about their ETH funds doesn't say anything about BTC/Fiat/RealEstate part of their funds, but at least proofs parts of the transparency report and AmA statement to be valid.

As mentioned before, I think the team should definitely improve on communication, transparency and marketing. It shouldn't be necessary for me to get these numbers and addresses from the blockchain. But, on the other hand, most other ICOs don't even do such transparency reports, so this is definitely better than many others...