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Re: Rambotic - need opinion from community
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Rambotnic
on 04/02/2019, 01:40:48 UTC

OK let's just assume you were honest, and i will let the part of you asking him to pay bribe the extortionist slip.

you asking for 0.1 btc to help a poor soul ,in exchange for getting his account back, but now you speak about information ? if he gets his account back after paying the bribe, why does he need to pay you 0.1 btc? let alone the very unsmart advice of paying a scammer more money to return what they have already scammed.

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it's either you were trying to scam him, or being a part of the extortion team , or you could be honest but you differently have no idea what the fuck  you were doing and you just wanted to get some money.


You taking it as "poor soul" because you don't spend your time for free right? Smiley
This "poor soul" were requested to pay 370$ for job which will return him 140,600$ ( correct me if i am wrong but i believe 38btc worth that).
Why would that "poor soul" will refuse paying that low for service which can't harm him or take any of his time? Isn't that even 2x lower than any lawyer to even start watching the case without doing anything? And he were offered to pay that only after successful job?
This information i am talking about will be used against the scammers to be threatened to return to the victim what's his. ( Don't get me wrong, i won't be the one threatening anyone, but i am sure the "victim" will.)
Or it will be used for future investigation.
What do you mean "if he gets his account back after paying the bribe"?
I already said few times that accepting to pay that bribe doesn't actually mean he should or will do it.
I already said that "accepting paying the bribe" could only give him time to play by their own rules, to win time, request escrow in some part of the conversation, which will bring more facts is this actually the real cloudbet or some random scammer who found his email in the scam report.
In the begin there is nothing else we can do than playing by their own rules, setting traps so we can expose their intentions and collect information.
He should ( no one can force him) pay me 0.1 btc ONLY if i really made something and successful helped for his account returning.
I am not sure how i will be able to scam him, please explain me?
I am also not sure how i can be part of extortion team? I am part of that casino team or some other team ? Please explain me..
I were and i will always be honest and the only thing from my position that i can do is, put traps to collect information so me and the "victim" could use for future investigation.
By "traps" i mean suggestion of using escrow, and why i am calling that trap were already said but i will repeat it.
By accepting paying "bribe" but asking for escrow, that will show is this real casino or just random scammer.
How? If they accept escrow, obviously that would be the casino, random scammer would not accept any coins to be put in middle because he can't unlock his account.
And if they refuse the escrow usage, it would be obvious failed scamm attempt by some random idiot, and the conversation between the "victim" and this guy should end instant.

This is just one of the few traps i had in mind.