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Re: ▄▀▄ REMOVE LAUDA FROM DT ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ LIST UPDATED 2/2/19 ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄π
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cryptohunter
on 04/02/2019, 13:26:42 UTC
⭐ Merited by stingers (10)
Long post but perhaps worth a read for anyone feeling they too are victims of trust abuse and that it is quite astounding how others seems to sanction it here even the admin.


For this entire system to work as theymos wants it to work he made a fatal error with the 250 earned merits. Therefore handing total control from his own seemingly fair hands into the hands of a gang of quite ruthless and blatantly untrustworthy members that have demonstrated in the past in black and white what they really are.


This has allowed the proven cyclers (whom I believe are mostly dishonest ratbags anyway for cycling it and now further backed up by the fact nobody on DT1 will even look at the evidence of a lie and admit it is indeed a lie, I mean that is evident many times when I have challenged or asked them in public to review the evidence with me- can they not see how blatantly broken that makes DT look) to gain the immediate control of both merit and trust.

Theymos originally proposed 100 earned merit which was a sensible amount because as I have clearly illustrated once you remove the top 0.13% of the boards self awarded merits many lose around 60-90% of their earned merits and only a handful would have 250 making it very very centralised, and actually centralised to the same group that you can see are very "gang" like on every thread if one of them gets challenged. We could all name them here with ease. They are riddled in each others bpip fans and recipients and all include exclude in a gang on the DT lists.

You have to wonder who pushed him to the 250 earned merits and why he even considered it and did not (if he wanted to tighten it up a bit ) add in some kind of activity threshold. WTF is merit to do with trust is another debate anyway. Some of these DT have been here 5 mins compared to years and years of history if he had put an activity threshold and lowered the earned (cycled merits). This again seems illogical. Since having years of activity to review vs 5 mins is like an obvious blunder.

Anyway forget DT - merit is the key here. Without 2 members having 250 earned merits DT is a no go unless we can ask theymos to explain in public whom pushed him to 250 earned merits and why he believes that does not centralise it to the same group that observably gang up and are guilty of lying, trust abuse and other proven shady devious acts.

Theymos to me is not dirty or corrupt ( i mean what does he gain ..he just wants a nicely functioning forum right) but he takes almost a machine approach to things - lauda is possibly net useful (i don't agree) so he allows the proven collateral damage lauda causes along the way for the possibly greater good.

 For me that is a mistake because negative events that are viewed as completely unfair and unjust by the victims cause huge energies of negativity much much more even than people who get scammed by a shit Ico they likely knew was huge risk to start with. People will not accept moral judgements (often immoral) from someone whom is proven a liar and very shrouded in dirty deeds himself.  That will just create an atmosphere of double standards and unfairness that will rage on and on.

Failing that we need to locate merit sources that are fair and are also annoyed at the double standards and blatant dishonest of the DT1 clan. Point them toward posts that are made by fair and honest individuals that are worthy of merit.


Right now the only method to stop them is as I have previously suggested above. Whenever possible (ie on topic and relevant) present the facts of their untrustworthy ways and provable lies at them. Eventually it will spoil their party here. People whom are proven liars do not get to call other people liars without presenting evidence. People whom are proven sock puppet racist trolls sig spammers simply do not get to lecture to people for financially motivated posting without that fact being presented. Sorry that double standards dirt is not going to wash. Imagine jeffrey dahmer in his prime years telling you how evil you are and you need red trust for not being a vegetarian.


The risk is of course is  more red tags (they can give them at this time for presenting facts demonstrating their own wrongdoing with no comeback) and even a ban if they pressure mods and theymos enough with the complaints about being factually reminded on topic that they are scum bags FOR REAL. 

Of course you more than likely have many friends that can join and voice their new facts that you were banned for presenting on topic and relevant facts and observable events that demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour.  Then again what is a lost account or 2 in the fight for freedom of speech and freedom from these trust abusers and their supporters and will give more ammunition for the corruption argument.

Also I know it is frustrating to see such injustice towards honest members like ourselves that have done many great things for this community in the past .... however I am now approaching the task of getting these scumbags off DT or at the very least crushing their abilities to abuse other persons unanswered with a less aggressive style. I think it works better and allows them less opportunity to cast off facts and observable events as the fabrications or inventions of a raging aggressive member who needs to be avoided even if they do have facts of abuse to present.

Sorry for the long post but it is something for us to consider if we are really serious about bringing about a fairer system here.