However if he tried to actually "game" the system to his advantage (not saying he did) should THAT be tagged?
With gaming the system I mean influencing DT list for his own sake or agenda and not for legitimate reasons. See Thule et al.
If the "gaming" takes the form of strategically sending a lot of merit, creating sockuppets, and stuff like that, then no. That sort of gaming might get me to blacklist people, in fact. But if it looks more like
politics, then that's OK, and that's what H8bussesNbicycles's thread looks like to me.
Is stingers still a merit source? Sending merits to pad H8's gang to 10 merits so that they would have votes. Not sure if that counts as "strategic".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.msg49590110#msg49590110How can you say those merits are simply not deserved? merits are subjective and posts fighting dishonest untrustworthy practises are most deserving. Like people being rewarded for busting scams or other "possible" shady dealings.
I say looking at your bpip and your "friends" bpips these look very "strategic" hence why you are all on in a position to strategically include each other on DT1
There is no rules at all for giving merit is all subjective nonsense. I have proven certain posts are nothing but false assumptions and merely politically motivated faux and empty rebuttals. Yet still they get a ton of merit and the correct and valuable posts get nothing.
This entire merit thing is a sham.
You get into a debate with any of the merit cyclers and regardless of whom is correct or which are the valuable posts they just allocate merit to posts that follow their political views or ideologies. That is why I was trying to define an objective set of criteria that could define a valuable post. Of course none of the merit cyclers wish for that because that stops people like fox pup firing out merit just for any reason. I mean jet cash gave out some the other day because he said he was bored of hearing the same facts being presented against the same person or some rubbish like this.
Merit is the most damaging thing here and now it is tied to DT with this ludicrous 250 earned cycled merit threshold (they all boast about and taunt others saying you will never be able to touch us because we will not allow you to have the merits needed) .. i mean i have asked loyce bring me a some of your great thought inspiring or even very interesting posts (not stats copy and paste) he brings nothing, I ask tman bring me some of your greatest posts and contribution for debate.... nothing. I mean a handful can present some Okay posts ...nothing of any real importance or that look like a lot of thought went in to them. This main merit circle gang produce nothing but a constant rehash of their own ideologies and parroting support for them for merits.
Political reasons for meriting are far more common that from analysing the content of the post for the purposes of reaching an optimal solution or outcome.
Now I notice some says okay I agree politically with your views and i will look for a post supporting those views that was well written and expresses clearly the issues with the current status quo and some possible solutions for reaching an optimal outcome in terms of fairness and equality for all and ..............suchmoon starts crying about it and of course those merits need to be removed at once.
Lets start going through all of their posts and see which deserve merits on the basis of the quality and value they provide. You will find significant amounts are awarded during each debate simply for their views aligning with the politics of other cyclers and nothing to do with the logical argument provided and nothing to do with reaching the optimal solution or even reaching the truth.
Let's introduce some criteria for what is a valuable posts and if merit sources are found awarding and cycling merits outside of that then they are removed like stingers. Fox pup awards merit like sweets to his pals for usually nonsense posts or just taking the piss.
How did this person even get so many merits to hand in vast amounts to so many of the same people that all include themselves on dt?