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Re: Theymos can you explain your reasoning on merit allocated on a political basis.
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cryptohunter
on 09/02/2019, 13:38:18 UTC
sadly for you guys I have damaged my hand in a slight accident so I will be typing lot less until it is better since to type with one hand is way way slower and a post of 1000 words taking perhaps 10 mins -15mins is now going to be perhaps 1 hour or even greater..

So xtraelv you are missing my point i feel. It is perfectly legit to merit according to political views even if you openly state this so long as the post is providing value and is merit worthy. The motive should not be relevant or considered for the purposes of merit because the post itself should stand on its own to be analysed objectively.

I mean to say you do not merit in a politically driven manner is quite unlikely let's check out your bpip (this is only the top10 if feel the top20 would give an even more clear picture.

Favorite profiles to send sMerit to
Profile   Number   Sum
suchmoon   29   29
taikuri13   19   19
Lafu   3   19
theymos   10   10
marlboroza   9   9
o_e_l_e_o   9   9
morvillz7z   9   9
DdmrDdmr   8   8
ICOEthics   8   8
The Pharmacist   8   8


suchmoon   31   155
Vod   12   71
BitcoinFX   2   51
Spidersbox   1   50
cryptodevil   3   46
qwk   14   35
TMAN   10   30
bones261   17   28
LoyceV   21   26
paxmao   14   25


Now that is kind of telling is it not I mean I see many names there that are listed in the OP


now I wonder about your own dt inclusions exclusions

included by

1miau
         Alex_Sr
         Bitze
         Coolcryptovator
         DJ1554
         DarkStar_alt
         DdmrDdmr
         Epicyclic
         ICOEthics
         Lafu
         TMAN
         The Pharmacist
         cryptodevil
         iasenko
         marlboroza
         morvillz7z
         owlcatz
         qwk
         r1s2g3
         suchmoon
         taikuri13
         theyoungmillionaire
         tmfp

you include

        1miau
         AUKING
         Alex_Sr
         Bigjohnson124
         Coolcryptovator
         DJ1554
         DarkStar_
         DdmrDdmr
         Hhampuz
         ICOEthics
         Lafu
         LoyceV
         Lutpin
         Mitchell
         MySeriousFaceIsOn
         Pieter Wuille
         Rumhurius
         The Pharmacist
         TripleHeXXX
         Veleor
         Vod
         Welsh
         Xal0lex
         actmyname
         bones261
         coinlocket$
         cryptodevil
         dooglus
         gmaxwell
         gost111
         hilariousandco
         hilariousetc
         iasenko
         ibminer
         marlboroza
         minerjones
         morvillz7z
         mprep
         nutildah
         o_e_l_e_o
         owlcatz
         pazor_true
         phantastisch
         qwk
         suchmoon
         taikuri13
         theymos
         theyoungmillionaire
         tmfp
         waya
         xandry

now I see there once again these contain the exact persons that I have mentioned before.

so from a board of 150k users now it is a big coincidence that this you find their posts the most worthy of merit and amazingly they find your posts most worthy of merit.  

You feel they should be on DT and they feel you should be on DT


What is even more freakish is that the entire circle also feel a huge proportion of the same people need to be excluded from DT.


Now what you are seeing on my trust list and the others trust lists is a RESPONSE to the circling of merits and the manipulation and abuse of DT . This abuse is proven but sadly the subjectivity of the systems of control allow for the deniability of collusion when everything else points to it.

So to recap.

I am saying there is nothing wrong with political meriting as long as the post is merit worthy. This is of course not fair because you will be withholding merit from others by not viewing their posts as much or if you dislike them or their posts are not in agreement politically with  your views or the views that enable you personally to benefit from these systems then these will be strongly resisted.

I mean let me take the rest of your post

"I just believe that with the sheer number of negative threads you make in various places, the unwarranted personal attacks that you have made on me and others and the feedback that you have left previously for others and the people you trust and distrust does not align with my values. "

1. point me to the negative posts
2. the unwarranted personal attacks.

You do realise my MO is simply

Criteria be set for DT and Merit that ensures fair and equal treatment of all persons here. Can you show me a post of mine that does not seem to be pushing for that ??

My posts only seem negative to those that the status quo suites better than the fairer system I would like to see introduced.

Please think about this post before you reply.

@qwk

post of 1000 words starts below because the other one was for xtraelv


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1. you quoted me and it says there... facts and Reasonable conclusions based on evidence or corroborating events then went on to only address each of my points and measure them against what you would consider a FACT. You made no further mention of reasonable conclusions based on corroborating evidence/events. This was kind of thing I would not expect from you. Let's us be sensible and reasonable with each other. I mean we both understand many things would fail the threshold of a fact but are reasonable or highly probable and therefore still worthy of deep consideration.

Now to test out if you are going to accept Facts and Facts I must ask you for a 3rd time to review a what I consider to be a fact and see if you will consider it to be a fact too. Now since you have promised to answer me I am hoping you will do so now. Then after establishing this I will make what I find to be a reasonable statement based on that fact and you will tell me if it is reasonable or if not you will explain why it is not reasonable. After clearing that up we should move to the other points in my post that you and I shall debate and see if my "opinions" are reasonable or not or if some are indeed facts.

This is regarding a project that annouced a fair pow launch (no premine/instamine)

It then did this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg7535561#msg7535561

he made these comments on many occasions over many months we had quite a few arguments over it

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208

Now this is clearly a financially motivated lie. Scammers are financially motivated liars.

Do you think to have someone on your DT inclusions that has been proven to be a liar and i say a scammer therefore because it is a deception for financial reasons.... so yes why do you include such a person ??

Have you read the full threads in my sig and do you find them to be the actions of a trustworthy person? combined with the fact that he is a liar for financial reasons. How about the extortion attempt or the escrow business? what are your opinons on those?

I am trying to sample your thoughts so that I can see this high threshold of acceptance of facts or reasonable/probable explanation in light of observable /corroborating events and circumstances.

I would like to hear your detailed thoughts on these things which I say are very relevant to the OP because if you are not politically motivated and you are objective that will be welcome news. I thought we may have got off to a bad start but i was impressed at your cool nature even when I was swearing at you. I need to learn this type of coolness myself.  I feel it will certainly help me convey my thoughts to a wider audience.