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Re: I thought Trezor's were suppose to be secure?
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HCP
on 27/03/2019, 07:57:34 UTC
⭐ Merited by bones261 (2)
As everyone else has explained... Seed Mnemonic (ie. 24 words) + Passphrase = Used to generate actual seed that your wallets are built off of.

For Trezor, the Seed mnemonics adhere to a set standard (BIP39) which includes a limited set of words and a checksum to determine if the mnemonic is "valid". Given that you are NOT getting any seed mnemonic errors, then the issue is likely with the "passphrase" that you are attempting to use.

As described here: https://wiki.trezor.io/Passphrase
Important remarks
The selected passphrase works like the additional word of the recovery seed that is not stored on the device. Every time you access your wallet you need to enter exactly the same passphrase. If you mistype the passphrase, a different (typically empty) wallet is opened. Of course, you can use this feature to have more independent wallets based on the same recovery seed.

This means that both the recovery seed and the passphrase (if used) are essential for the recovery of a wallet. Also, the passphrase feature does not really encrypt the seed or the wallet, it is itself part of the seed. So maybe the term passphrase encryption should not be used.

Unfortunately, there is not "standard" for a user-specified passphrase, and can be literally any combination of letters, numbers and symbols... up to the Trezor limit of 50 characters.

And the warning on that same page would apply:
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Warning Keep your passphrase in a safe place. In case you forget your passphrase, your funds protected by it are lost forever.

There is no way to recover a "lost" passphrase... perhaps try "variations" of what you believe your passphrase was and test typos/spelling mistakes etc? Huh Undecided


Then when it asked me to login I used the 25th word from the recovery seed to see if that was the passphrase for the wallet.
nope that didn't work. Which I was hoping it would have.
Do you have a 25th word writtent down on your recovery card? Huh Trezor ONE seeds are generally only 24 words... So, If you don't recognise that "25th word" as the passphrase that you think you were previously logging in... perhaps it is actually a "hint" that you left yourself as to what your passphrase was? Huh