I did pretty well out of the Jupiters. I also ordered Neptunes. But when the silence became deafening I decided to get a refund. This was a about 2 days before the datacentre shenanigans. I think it was the right decision. Just too many suspect elements to 'Plan B'. KnC have lost their transparency. I think it will all end in tears. Happy to be wrong, but in the mean time, I'll content myself with Jupiters beavering away...