I created this topic (September 26, 2017) way before the big price jump of the coin prices, tried to warn everyone its a kind of gamble!
Of course some members said the same thing couple of times like just like you said: most of the ppl on this forum are hostile to new miners!
Newbies started to buy GPU's like crazy, 3x 4x more than MSRP, they put they numbers into a online calculator, and they saw a bright, "getting rich fast kinda" future right away

Now this members, people coming back to this forum and crying after they money, this members are who are actually hostile to new miners ! This members opening topics, posting posts like : Turned off all my rigs , Mining is not profitable anymore, My rig making only 900$ a year and that's not good...
I don`t see any problem. Someone lost his money. Ok, it`s his problem. He turned his rigs off? Ok, difficulty goes down. Mining not profitable? Ok, turn off rigs. It`s just their problem, not yours. If they are listening for unknown man how to spent their money - it`s just their problem.
They don`t disturb me, their problems don`t worry me. I know that mining = profit. And i`m ready to buy their GPU for 50% from MSRP