Look at the local rules in the first thread you have linked to. To single out everyone who has disagreed with you in the past and forbid them from posting in your thread, and then expect your thread to contain a meaningful dialogue or reach a relevant conclusion is a ridiculous premise. The whole point of a discussion is to hear opposing view points, and solutions will never be reached by living in an echo chamber. Everyone is well within their right to start a thread with such local rules if they like, but holding it up as an example of someone trying to find solutions is disingenuous at best.