OK I get you. I just meant eASIC's 28nm line hence why I used the term 'line'. Ken did say we are going full custom and that means we are not using the easicopy or nextreme process. Just pointing out that the wraps have been on eASIC's 28nm Nextreme for a long long time and now they are in production. That must be significant for their custom 28nm process too? They must share some equipment, machinery, expertise between the two processes? In other words if Nextreme is finalised and scaleable then the full custom process is less likely to have any set backs from here?