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Re: Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake'
by
minerpart
on 11/02/2014, 22:07:35 UTC
AssetActiveMiningLabcoin



ExchangesBitFunder, BTC-TC, Cryptostocks, Crypto-TradeBTC-TC, Cryptostocks



IdentitiesKnown from the start; American alcoholic fatso and his family. Past get-rich-quick businesses disappeared (HFT trading, Million Dollar Web Hosting)Known from the start; Italian guys, some of which already associated to scams (zenpad, bitdaytrade, bitscalper)



Technical competence of the teamNone, yet claimed. Offloaded the work.None. Offloaded the work for cheap.



Paid dividendsYesYes



Faked miningYes (admits to using Cex.io without telling shareholders). Surely at a loss.Yes (tried to resell the hardware on Italian eBay). Probably at a loss.



Mined with/produced own hardwareNeverNever



Posted picturesYes (mostly through third-parties), but nothing to seeYes, with many users defending how legit they were despite apparent flaws



Posted detailed chip specsYesYes



Admitted failure to create chips and immediately talked about better chipsYesYes



Contradictory statementsMany, some admitted.Many, never admitted.



Official documentsBusiness registration, eASIC NDABusiness registration, fab order



Had "easy money" spreadsheetYes, made by user Vbs, officially part of the Advisory BoardYes, on the first page



Officially relied on random forum users for PR(Streets 2.0), (ffssixtynine, lolstate, Vbs, lewicki), (Bargraphics)TheSwede75



SockpuppetsMac65, Bit-Vestor, Babefoot??



Traded on exchanges with verification before listingYesYes



Crowd opinionMajority of Bitcointalk users say it's not a scam.Majority of Bitcointalk users said it's not a scam, until final disappearance. Most of the evidence was already out there; only the final disappearance changed things.



Complaints about "FUD", "trolls", calls for ignores, etc.Overwhelming.Overwhelming.



Released financial reportsFlawed, and nothing released for months. No details on eASIC and UMC costs. Said "excellent financial position". Considers unpaid preorders as real sales. Salary?Never. Said they had half left.



Traded own stockAdmitted multiple timesLikely



Exchange migrationUnnecessarily cumbersome, or even gouging, unnecessary delaysFlawless



Still operatingYes, but dividends not paidNo



Switched from unmoderated to moderated threadYes. Many posts deleted totaling a high number of man-hours.Yes. Many posts deleted totaling a high number of man-hours.



Cheap shares!These are a bargain and should go very quicktake advantage of the current cheap prices



LawsuitNoYes

So, which was the better investment? Which is a scam? You decide.

To finish, some trading advice.