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Re: BTC-e suspended accounts [Gathering]
by
Thran
on 12/02/2014, 20:28:42 UTC
Let's see some established users verify any of this, because:

...and who named that domain
in the chat was suspended too. Suspended means that the whole account access is dropped and all fund are for that time seized.
...

I call total BS. When they ban you from chat it has no affect on your account.
I'm sorry if your story is true, but this thread has 2 low post noobs bashing btc-e.
You guys combine truth (i.e thier poor English) with what could be a big pile of lies.

Ok, i can show you at last what had happened at btc-e in the last 2 month and how btc-e and the trollbox was
attacked by hackers and malware links and that the site and the mods was not able to deal with it.

Bitcoinwisdom is one of the main chart sites - as many know they warned some time with a popup people that
other domains claimed to be bitcoinwisdom and tried to install maleware. I think enough people had seens that.

So - one major source to spread that malware domain was the trollbox. There was some domains used i can't remember,
some included bitcoinwisdom as frame and had a download link for "better charts" (you can think what it was), some
had java trojaner. The most successful of that domains was the .net variant, which was a fake domain and not releated
to the com. Here is, what happend 8 weeks ago at the trollbox. That was one of the first bigger attacks.

http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=all&search=bitcoinwisdom.net

Scroll a bit down - you will see soon rows of rows with that domain, claiming to offer charts.  You will see 2 things.

First, i need on a big screen 14 page down to move through all that rows. Thats alot, the attack was done over several days.
Second, you will see at some point that the user account spreading the line is changing over and over.

The trollboxarchive does not log bans and such but that is what happend. The mods banned the account of the hacker, but that
guy simply created a new one and spamed on.

Well, as i pointed out the chat miss basic protections. So mods was always behind.
They are not to blame, they use the tools they have.

Now, one way to stop the spam (not only malware) was the idea that a user must have at last $100 in its account to post in the chat.
But that did not stopped any hacker.

Because a mod can only ban a user from the chat! NOT suspend the account.
So, what happend? The hacker transfered 10 litecoins or so to the account, spamed, got banned, moved the coins out and to another
new account. That simple. The transfer costs are no problem, every infected user gave him alot more.

That was only the start. One other phishing site was predict-btc, preditinfo and such. And that attack is already going on.
Its incredible to watch, even that hacker was one week not active. Then he attacked again this week.

http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=all&search=predictcoin
As you can see, the user spaming that malware domain is changing as fast as mods ban him.

Now, what happens then? The mods banned all this spammer accounts. For weeks or a month.
And then the chat ban weared out. They returned. And the spammer used them partly again.

At that point, because the mods are no team members of btc-e but some exclusive traders (not sure they get payment too),
they needed someone dealing with this incredible amount of known hacker accounts. Look at only the 2 links i gave you.
Search for more "predict" spam. We talk about some dozen accounts, if you count all perhaps hundreds of hacker accounts,
if you look all that different malware links posted in the last 2-3 month in that chat.

They needed to ban then to kill them and to avoid the reuse and all.

But how? you don't work yourself by hand through 8 weeks of chat lines. They did something automated. Like a grep on the data.

And there we are - that is the point where people get caught when they had that patterns too in a chat line.
I am sure the admin or whoever did the bans tried to catch only the hackers but this kind of action always have
some collateral damage. I know it, i had to deal with similiar problems on my own sites.

I hope i was able to explain it good enough: Again - i don't think btc-e tries to scam people or doing harm to poeple.
They was caught on the wrong leg and they missed to deal with a problem in time.
Thats ok - but they should now a bit more helpful.