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Re: [need DT] using multiple account, trading merit, self-talking, trading trust
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wwzsocki
on 27/05/2019, 08:22:28 UTC
There is nothing wrong in helping a friend and sharing things with him and informing about this site, but i have a few doubts after reading everything you said.

You said you are living door to door for a decade and if that is the case and if you think you are accused of something, what is the first thing you do, PM him about the issue and wait indefinitely or make a call and clarify this ASAP  Roll Eyes. Since you said you are living nearby and close friends for a decade i am certain that you have his phone number.

This is very good that you ask that question. Of course, I have called him and sent a message.




You know very well that all it takes to have a Telegram account is a phone and a phone number and how easy it is to install in your friends mobile.

Yes, I know that this takes only a few minutes to install Telegram, but believe me, if I don't have to, I will never download it. Took me a very long time to do this. When I downloaded it, I was sure that I will be called with advertising or spammy offers and I am sure a lot of people think exactly the same way. Of course, this is not the case and Telegram is a great app. Like, I said, I am not a young guy. I am almost 50 and for grown-up people, it takes a second before we download something.

About ETH address and ref links, you can see many are caught using alt accounts because they can be connected and yes you are stupid enough to share the address while it takes a few minutes to create an ETH address even if he does not know shit about anything, you can keep the private key and send the address, what is so difficult if you are aware of the forum rules, so who is to be blamed here.

Yes, I agree with you that many are caught using the same ETH address but this case is different. From the time I have handed over this address there is almost no activity. There are no withdrawals, no money involved. There are no deposits made from other ETH addresses. At this time I wasn't thinking about alt accounts when I was helping him. If I would create an alt you can be sure that I will use everything different but I wasn't thinking about this at that time. After a few months, I started to see a wave of banned alt accounts and investigations started where this same ETH addresses, social media accounts, emails were involved, and shown as evidence. At this time I realized that we are connected too in many ways, and started to inform forum about this. I was afraid that somebody will mistrust me because of our connection. After some time I stopped to be worried because our connection was declared on the forum, and all these ETH addresses involved in bounty abuse behave differently. There were multiple tokens from bounties sent from a few different addresses to one, and all these addresses were from alt accounts involved in same bounties and airdrops on a massive scale. Or there were multiple tokens sent from many to one address, and so on. You don't find such suspicious activity on this ETH 0x389Fd36aDe499b71da9FD651D092e6a167eb3cEc account. What is better from the time I give this address there are almost no transactions. You can clearly see that he needed an ETH address only to sign up in a bounty. That is why I thought, ok these guys are caught because this is a farm of alts and they abuse everything. My case is different I informed the forum that we know each other a year ago and repeated this multiple times until today and never do anything against the forum rules.

You really do not need to be a geek to create a mail ID, he knows how to join a bounty but does not have a clue about creating a mail ID Roll Eyes.

Why this is so hard to grasp. This is the email used for bounties and I have plenty of them. He knew about this and ask me to use them. Why not?

I have multiple ofertyww@gmail.com addresses and believe me I will use a different one if I register an alt account.

If you wish you can send me an email to any of this email addresses (only sent me a PM before):
ofertyww@gmail.com, ofertyww1@gmail.com, ofertyww2@gmail.com, ofertyww3@gmail.com .... ofertyww8@gmail.com and all between them 4,5,6,7 and many more.
He knew about this and simply asked to use one of them. He even didn't ask for password because was not needed. That was only for the bounty.
Some people are not so good with computers and to create an email, wallets, download apps, remember keys and save them in a safe place, etc. is just too much. Especially if you don't know anything about cryptocurrencies.

After 2 bounty campaigns and some missed investment, he just lost his attention to crypto. Additionally, the crypto market crashed and for some time we had quiet weeks because of the money involved. From this time he is only sometimes on the forum and posts almost nothing only in threads we have invested. I post every day a lot of posts. If this would be my alt I would write posts there every day to rank up fast, other ways why would I need one alt account? You can see all this in our post history, and match with my statements.

There is too much evidence against you and let the community decide on what to do

I never hid that these accounts are connected. I have written about this multiple times on the forum and in my trust annotations. We are invested in the same projects and I supported him here on Bitcointalk, which I think is not wrong. I really don't know what could I do more to inform the community about this that we know each other close?

We can do a KYC to prove that we are different people. Additionally, we never break any forum rules so this should be enough.  I would be happy to disclose more information. This is strictly private info and I won't do it in the open, but there is no problem to do this with forum admins.  

This is an anonymous forum, and we don't have to say that we know each other. The most important thing is forum rules, and they were never abused.