All the altcoins you mentioned here all have very quality products and that is why they are naturally increasing without their bull run, and then I imagine what their increase will be like when their bull run comes. This is one of the reasons why most investor should make sure that they are after projects that would have real life working products, because that is the only way they can have a reliable investment for long term.

I see that most of other altcoins without a working product are only good for short term investment, because they end up collapsing after they get pumped and dumped, but coins like bitcoin and these ones will always get back on their feet no matter how deep the dump is.