I think that LN does not really solve the scalability problem at all.
It will scale the Bitcoin Network, but I believe no one knows by how much. 100x? 1000x? Or maybe less? Because of that unknown, then we simply cannot predict how much it will impact the volume of Bitcoin's usage.
if only windfury had a clue
its like he is saying "uber scales the new york yellow cab company"
.. um no. the yellow cab companies customer base is in DECLINE

Haha. That's cab companies, we are talking about Bitcoin. Usage has increased. Why, do you believe, are the fees high?
scaling a network by deburdening the network of utility (facepalm)
hint to windfury: more research, less echo chamber script reading
Deburdening on-chain, frees it, and eases the network to scale out.
scaling a network by deburdening the network of utility (facepalm)
utility isn't declining. the network is drastically expanding. bitcoin is becoming exponentially more useful all the time. the on-chain micropayment niche might be dead, but why do think that is the only metric? maybe we need to find a better solution for micropayments than to alter bitcoin's economic design just for the sake of them?
you seem to be coming from the perspective that we can wait decades to raise fees. next year, the coinbase reward drops to 12.5% of the original reward. but you seem to think users should continue to pay nothing, doing nothing to replace the falling mining revenues, in order to bootstrap the network.
you really think that's a sustainable approach---to let users pay nothing for decades and
then lower block sizes to jack up the fees when hash rate starts plummeting in response to no block rewards? i don't think users will have much interest in that. it's a tough pill to swallow but it'll be a hell of a lot easier to do it now with a fee market (especially since it requires no consensus change) than later.
I believe franky1 really doesn't understand the game theory, and the present dynamic between the network, the miners, and the users/economic majority. Or he's trolling.