From our perspective, The Great First Cause is the cause of the universe. However, we don't even know if The Great First Cause has a perspective, to say nothing about what something like a perspective might be for TGFC.
So, again I show you that I don't have an argument to destroy, one way or another. I'm just posting.
You have to admit you fucked up mate, you literally destroyed your own argument. You are telling me I can't apply anything that happens in the universe outside of it and yet you are the one applying, complexity, cause and effect and other things that are IN this universe, outside of it. Admit it, you are stupid.
As usual... you forgot to consider my previous post, which you quoted, above.
You just make the shit up for the stuff you dont know. Like all religious people do.
You said that you dont understand how the outside of the universe works, yet you claim that it does not operate based on the cause and effect principle, and in the same sentence you claim that something outside of the universe is the cause of this universe. Just say you dont know and stop there. Dont make the shit up and make logical errors at every step in your fantasy.
To say that you are confused, dumb, and ignorant is an understatement.
Yeah, at this point it's basically impossible to even discuss with him, he is literally contradicting himself 2 consecutive times, it's insane and he doesn't even realize it.