did I not say, no  fraud accusations pls?   
MA talk, I know your arguments since there were repeated in the forum countless times.  Many of them are valid, but IMHO some misses the point. Additionally, some positive points are not investigated or neglected. E.g. this forum post on buy and sell signals. I agree that Socrates and Armstrong are terribly (and sometimes unnecessarily)  complex, but that is just not the full truth. Unfortunately I don't have the time to explain this  and I sure this will be the point  where you will now feel a massive desire to respond to  . Come on, go ahead...