after reading the previous poster i have to laugh.
too much attention is being put on things leading to moving people offchain rather than things that can optimise BITCOIN
as the previous posters shows, he seems he is stuck on the blocksize debate. but avoids the increase capacity debate.
segwit has not increased capacity. its just allowed more bloated tx's to be hidden away. yet hard drives still fill faster.
if only he could show a single day that bitcoin achieved over 600k transactions (7tx/s that was signified in early bitcoin days) then those segwit lovers can truly say segwit has achieved atleast one of its promises
p.s segwit lovers are only segwit lovers for hopes of thm being LN watchtower/factory operators to earn some income. what they dont realise is they will only earn enough to eat chicken nuggets for christmas, yet they still dont care about the wider communities utility needs of bitcoin