This is their overall stats:
Messages:59,675
And this the main topic:
Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. Replies:30,476
One topic has half of all the posts of the entire forum. Also when you have a user posting nearly 10% of all the messages on the board, common....
So this is where cypherdoc ended up

I thought that the two sites mentioned in the OP rang a bell. I looked at them (briefly) when someone opened a thread on Beginners & Help suggesting some alternative crypto forums (which turned out as expected rather inferior in activity and content, although some sections seemed interesting like the video section in cryptocurrencytalk.com or the guides in mastersofcrypto.com).
I really cant be bothered with other Crypto Forums unless a pretty good reason crops up to ponder them over Bitcointalk. Even so, Ive taken a quick glimpse at the list (so my first impressions may be wrong):
Bitalk.org -> Seems to be Russian only.
There's another Russian Bitcoin forum,
https://forum.bits.media/, and it's way more active.