Quote from: j23a on February 21, 2014, 03:23:09 AM

Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on February 21, 2014, 03:14:23 AM

Quote from: utopianfuture on February 20, 2014, 02:02:06 PM

I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list as I understand that he does not want to be there. In the first 20 pages of the fundraising, many people do not entirely understand about the scope as well as purpose of NEM so it was easy just to post "interested" there by a mistake. Contrary to what used to be in the first page of the fundraising thread , NEM do offer refund after the announcement of detail development plan (probably in 2 weeks or so) so if someone does not feel they fit in with NEM community, they can leave voluntarily.

As written in ournem.com, at this stage NEM is first of all a community of which people share a certain ideas and goals and we going to build NEM/ Nemcoin as our decentralized payment platform together as we go along. I see no reason to keep people that are unhappy with NEM and this approach. There are no coins to share yet so it is not like we are taking anything from anyone. If 2Kool4Skewl wants to join back in, just say so before I make the unified stakeholder list and I will add him in.

The majority of NEM funding comes from Bitcoin and only about 30% of NEM stakeholders appear in NXT discussion before (see an excellent statistics by newcn) so I see NXT and NEM having quite a different demographics, also different technology and purposes. While I think there is a certain aspect of competition between the two blockchain, we can learn from each others as well. Some are developers of both NXT and NEM and they work across the aisle and I think that is a good thing. It will help advancing experiments and innovations in more directions. Compared to Bitcoin and other POW coins, NXT and NEM have more similarity and we can join force to emphasize our strength in a green economical network and highlight the problems with the computational arm-races used by Bitcoin and other POW coins. Let's focus on cooperation and innovation instead of envy and hatred as that are also NEM's core concepts and principles.

BTW, we appreciate active participants much more than passive ones/ investors. So contact me if you want to help in any way. Thanks.

I'm certainly glad that I didn't invest any NXT or BTC for my Nem stake seeing that UtopianFuture and the community is so willing to remove a stakeholder from the genesis block. All I said was that I didn't think the current feature set was innovative and I didn't think collecting for a dev fund was ethical seeing that Nem has no feasible innovation imo.

What does this say about your community? Isn't "UtopianFuture" a misnomer now?

Everyone might want to think good and hard about what has just happened here.

Seems fair to me. You don't seem happy with NEM, nor do you seem to like it, talking negative about it, spreading FUD despite being a stakeholder. So he's giving you an option since it seems that perhaps you said interested without really knowing much about Nem. So he's doing you a favor and removing you from the list, and giving you the option of joining now that you're more familiar with Nem. So what's your decision.

Of course it seems fair to you, your Nem stake just grew. I didn't say I didn't like it. I said that I thought it was redundant because it lacks feasible innovation and I think fundraising is unethical under these conditions.

UtopianFuture didn't give me an option, he removed me. "I temporarily took 2Kool4Skewl from NEM stakeholder list" Now I have to reassert my interest? What gives him the power to remove peoples' stakes? Maybe, he'll do a favor for some other people too if they say the wrong thing.