I read what you said on Oct 20 over in the I0C post and from what I understood you sort of made it seem like exchanges just ignore the value of these coins anyway.  What I do know is you all have spent almost a decade on this board typing explanations and keeping the world updated on the progress of the project(s) without any guarantee someone from the outer world might even take the time to read a "bitcointalk.org" post.  I know after I started looking into this all 2 years ago, it still took time for me to get here where you all have been leaving valuable information all over this place.  Time is more valuable than paper currency with a federal government saying its "valid currency" - at the same time I'm sure the basket weaving done on all of your in-game currencies/assets whatever has been done with a set schedule, very carefully, and not outwardly obvious in a way that anyone will say "yeah you're right, it's going to be a great bet if you know what lies ahead from a developer's standpoint"... I don't even need that to realize that the devs here have been more than willing to discuss all of these things publicly and that takes time, repetition, and patience when dealing with an audience that may not even exist. I haven't posted here because there's no reason for me to.  I also don't mind people calling me whatever names they want over my beliefs.  But you seem pretty smart, markm, nova, traxo, develcuy, etc. - even Vlad - who can insult me all he wants, he still is using his time to do it.  So since you've all spent about a decade or so here in the public eye and who has any idea how long behind closed doors at DevCorp -- I trust you value your time as much as I appreciate it. This project will work out. Doesn't seem gimmicky, doesn't seem poorly planned, quite the opposite of anything that would throw a red flag. If time is what is necessary, I wouldn't expect anyone in my position to go sell their coins on a "3rd party exchange"... Not that those aren't a nice place to go buy coins, but I just don't see the point in it. There's got to be something bigger to this all. You said volume isn't necessarily a good thing on the I0C, markm, and I thought about that for quite awhile before I understood.  What this is going to take is time, and only some of you know how much. I'm willing to wait. These coins are from a secure blockchain, secure as any. I'm not going to be looking for USD, who says one can't use their [insert ancient coin here] as easy as ApplePay in the future... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say since all of you spend countless hours putting this all out here for anyone to stumble upon from a bitcoin related google search, this means something to you. I can wait.