Re: Optimal environment for bitcointalk - Improvements 1. Punishment for False accus

Quote from: xtraelv on November 19, 2019, 07:39:56 PM

Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 19, 2019, 05:09:46 PM

Trolling = the deliberate proliferation of conclusively debunked information as being true, aka claiming things are true that are proven to be false or claiming things are false that are proven to be true.

Lets replace that with an actual definition of trolling:

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In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Then in that context look at your post:

Quote from: The-One-Above-All on November 19, 2019, 05:09:46 PM

Well, what a lovely weekend we've had.

Anyway, I have to say this is all very disappointing. I had expected better even from this bunch of low functioning fools.

The reader should note that xtraelv seems to have been adding some edits now LOL kind of diminishing and debunking his original weak and meaningless point.

Let's start with xtraelv (who else haha)

So let's start with his latest bungle.

Claiming that Tman is an auction scammer = TROLLING according to xtraelv the scammer supporter.

Let's analyze his claim.

Trolling = the deliberate proliferation of conclusively debunked information as being true, aka claiming things are true that are proven to be false or claiming things are false that are proven to be true.

Scammer = using deception or lies for financial gain.

Hmmm so he must be claiming Tman is undeniably proven to NOT have been attempting to deceive people for financial gain??

This is quite hilarious because although anyone can say " tman was not being deceptive for financial gain" I mean you can say ANYTHING you want. We have given them multiple challenges to provide an ALTERNATIVE of tmans actions by becoming tman and describing in DETAIL how he was not attempting to be deceptive for financial gain.

EACH TIME THEY HAVE RUN AWAY FROM DOING SO.

So therefore not only have they NOT proven that the tman is an auction scammer is CONCLUSIVELY and undeniably debunked and untrue (required for it to be trolling) they have not even managed to provide ONE alternative to our claim that would stand up to scrutiny. I mean they have not even DARED to present one alternative because they know we will rip it to pieces.

SO now what does this mean??

It clearly means that they are TROLLING TROLLING and attempting to cast the undeniable and independently verifiable observable instances of tmans auction scamming as TROLLING

Thank you xtraelv for clearly demonstrating a NEED to punish those attempting to support scammers and endanger honest members of this forum.

Now present your ALTERNATIVE explanation for tmans actions OTHER THAN CLEAR DECEPTION FOR FINANCIAL GAIN or accept I will use this as a KEY example of trolling trolling and present this precise example to theymos in public and ask for comment on this kind of disgusting and untrustworthy scammer supporting here.

So again... You are tman , you have asked your pal to auction this coin for you ( for some reason) and you come to the auction ....how does it go down that is NOT deception for financial gain.

Hurry up you dumb shits. It is boring to crush your scammer supporting little minds in public repeatedly.#

@ the other turd word scanks that are blurting out garbled nonsense like lafu ( the promoter and employee of exit scamming exchanges) and legendster https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176043.0 , please bring some substance with your massacre of the English language. Thenoobnobody2143123 is an alt of one of the other fortunejack shit pumpers like lauda, tman, or one of those dregs.

So rather than keep to a definition that is objectively enforceable and sensible to ensure only information that is presented as true is true. You want a definition that means the mods would need complete knowledge of every members life to enforce that is therefore meaningless and valueless. Anything could be inflammatory if you have personal knowledge of a persons life that may not even seem inflammatory to other readers at all. Trolling from a forums perspective is only objectively enforceable using the forums definition in the rules as they are now.

I mean it is clear that you are afraid of needing to demonstrate any of our central points have been debunked, aka you know you can not debunk them because they are observable instances and are true.

You can't debunk them ( because they are true) so you want definition where they can be true and have value but be called trolling because it is inflammatory to call scammers and scammer supporters... filthy skanky scammers or disgusting shit stain ass kissing scammer supporters. haha

Clearly trying to weasel out of the requirement of demonstrating they can debunk or demonstrate our central points are incorrect.

Can't debunk an observable instance or demonstrate it is incorrect = THEN IT IS NOT TROLLING - got it scammer supporter.

Claiming independently verifiable observable instances are TROLLING when you know you can not debunk them is TROLLING TROLLING and should be punished to prevent this method of hiding, obscuring, derailing and generally trying to cast doubt upon the truth that you know you can not debunk because it is TRUE.

Take these scammers supporters sigs away and watch them squeal like the weasels they are.

So here we have it, there is no credible and valid objection from them to being called scammers or scammer supporters, it seems like just don't like being called filthy dirty skanky scammers or degenerate asskissing servile scummy scam supporters.

Tough shit scum bags.