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Re: 🏔🗻 Blue Hill Mining - STO backed by one of the largest copper reserves in Asia
by
bluehillfoundation.sup
on 20/11/2019, 18:43:44 UTC
Mr Crypto-Info:

Please don't hide with a nickname behind one forum on the internet. You have nothing to fear to give your name and your face to the community you say you represent, and the company you accuse as a scam and many other things.

We would like to know your name if you are so kind, so we can literally talk to you and not to a nickname, first of all, as we don't know who is the person behind the screen but you can now every person behind this screen. We have invited you to come, we have answered all your questions, we have explained all the details you have asked, we have accepted the ones that were mistaken from us and the ones that are mistakes from your interpretation, and we have settled the formal invitation for you to come to see the interpretation issues from your side with our lawyers that can kindly explain you all the different points that you can't understand at this time.

For obvious reasons and keeping the professional care of everyone, they won't sit to explain in a forum to a nickname, something that must be explained in-person to a man. And you have rejected that invitation. But for now, we will answer to your different accusations of this post, and to everyone here to see what you can achieve by talking without knowing:

1- We don't ask you to invest, we don't want people who can't understand the project to invest on it as it may be risky for their low understanding level of a high industry business process. You clearly don't have the amount and deepness of knowledge necessary to give this evaluation as you support your accusations in personal appreciations and personal interpretations of the information, even from our answers; what makes you lose total credibility and authority as respect from the well-understood businessmen.

2- We don't have one lawyer, we have a full buffet for this, and you are calling it a lie without even knowing about this. You are setting that our lawyers' service is a scam and/or that they are part of one as you are blaming them on being professionally incapable or negligent. Now your accusations have spread to the buffet itself, besides your accusations to us.

3- The project is not a scam and you are claiming it scam with "authority" self-given and without any proof. You are one person claiming something that dozens of high business people have applauded and become part of. As you may at least understand, this puts you in a very low position, and we are kindly answering your accusations for the people not to get this opportunity out of their hands by unfolded fears from none-named accusations and interpretations.

4- You don't know about corporate structure, yet you accuse about a scam.
You don't know about legal structures, yet you accuse about a scam.
You don't know about documents and bureaucratic structures, yet you accuse about a scam.
You are accusing so many people involved, so many companies and so many juridic persons that we are pretty sure you are not professional and formed at all neither in business, law or finances. No one with a little knowledge of these areas would be objecting as you are doing, going again and again in the same already answered questions, and complaining to logical and normal actions of every and each business model from top quality in the world.


THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS FOR YOUR LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING TO INVEST IN, PLEASE WE ADVISE YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT AS IT'S CLEAR THAT EVEN WITH A FULL COMPANY ANSWERING TO YOU AND INVITING YOU TO TALK WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN'T DISCERN BETWEEN YOUR REALITY AND THE REALITY, YOUR ACCUSATIONS AND THE REALITY, YOUR INTERPRETATIONS AND THE LEGAL ONES, YOUR IDEA OF SCAM AND A TRUE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.

KEEP TALKING, AND KEEP GIVIN YOUR OPINIONS AND ACCUSATIONS BUT CRYPTO-INFO DON'T GET MORE INVOLVED THAN THAT AS YOU DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO TAKE AND KEEP AN INVESTING DESITION TO ANY PROJECT OR NEW BUSINESS OF THIS TYPE.

WE ALSO KINDLY ADVISE YOU TO STUDY AS YOUR WORDS CLAIM TO BE INTERESTED IN:
BLOCKCHAIN
NEW BUSINESS OR BUSINESS 3.0
INTERNATIONAL LAW
INTERNATIONAL COMMERCE
E-COMMERCE
CRYPTO-ACTIVES
MINNING AND LAND INDUSTRIES
NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS LAW AND PROCESSES
RELATIONAL MARKETING
LINGUISTICS
SEMIOLOGY

ALL OF THIS IS THE KNOWLEDGE OUR WHOLE TEAM HAS BETWEEN MORE THAN 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND MANY PROFESSIONAL FIELDS COVERED TO GIVE THIS PROJECT A SUSTAINABLE BASE FOR STARTING, CONTINUING AND GROWING IN. YOUR OPINIONS ARE CLEARLY GOING WITH A DEEP MISUNDERSTANDING AND IGNORANCE ABOUT THIS.

Regarding the other doubts that you again have asked, we kindly ask you to go back to your posts and look for our answers, as we have already answered these questions with all the detail you need, and all the time it takes. We are sorry if you expected us to make a copy-paste for you but we trust you are capable of looking and finding in this forum how to go up on the previous posts and answers. In case you don't we advise you to read the instructions of the forum or contact a moderator, as maybe this could be the reason why you don't get to understand or even read our previous answers.

You claim yourself to be the information giver and the information bringer to the community, and to represent the community. Well, we are sorry and we don't want to break your ideas and dreams, but the community is more than 1, 10 or 100 persons giving their opinions, and before and after yours we have dozens of thousands of people of the community being part of this and also claiming the totally opposite opinion of yours, and they are and they aren't consumers; you are not even an active consumer, you are just giving an opinion from outside, without proper knowledge, without authority, without experience and without even giving your name...

Dear community of this forum interested in our project:
IF YOU HAVE THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TO BE PART OF OUR PROJECT, YOU ARE INVITED AND WE WELCOME YOU. IF YOU DON'T, WE STRICTLY AND STRONGLY ADVISE YOU NOT TO GET INVOLVED IN DESITIONS BEYOND YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AS EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND SOMETHING BUT NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, AND AS WITH LIFE, IN BUSINESS NOT EVERY OPPORTUNITY IS FOR EVERYONE. OPPORTUNITIES NEED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO BE APPRECIATED AND TAKEN AS THEY ARE. THE LACK OF THESE WILL MAKE YOU FEAR AND DESTROY WHAT COULD BE THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY.


Kindly regards
Blue Hill Foundation
Legal Department

Dear Forum Member:

We appreciate your participation in this topic, and above all the good intention of building opinions.

Our face-to-face invitation from the Crypto-Info user has not been a random and / or capricious decision;  If not the opposite.  The reasons are simple but specific:

1- Information and doubts are best treated in person.  People are known and communication is more fluid and much richer in understanding

2- Certain information of a private nature and with great strategic value should not be displayed or communicated in digital format, or reproduced in any format other than that of the actual experience in  persona

3- Our extraordinary commitment to invite and bring a person with doubts, to solve them in our mother house with our corporate in total confidence and openness;  it is a seal of real commitment

For these reasons essentially, we believe that the ideal and the best for the community and for the Crypto-Info user in particular, is to carry out the evacuation of doubts in the professional and serious way that a project of this magnitude implies.

Greet attentively
Blue Hill Foundation
Legal department


...
As we mentioned before, we have not yet applied for the FINMA License.... Put simply, we were looking to use Finma but we haven't applied yet.  As you can read on our roadmap, in the last quarter of the current year 2019 is that we will apply to the regulatory licenses. We are up to date 9 of this month of the Q4 in search of regulation, which is perfectly in the plans we have followed and communicated.
...
Blue Hill Foundation
Legal Department

Your Whitepaper Road map doesn't mention a FINMA license.
It states
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Q4-2019
Intention to be fully licensed under the Liechtenstein Financial Market Authority FMA
 
Has this application not been made either? How long is the expected wait for approval?

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as you can read on our roadmap, in the last quarter of the current year 2019 is that we will apply to the regulatory licenses.
Your roadmap doesn't say "we will apply in the last quarter", it says "intention to be fully licensed."
So, FINMA or FMA? But what's a different acronym between friends?

According to FINMA's website, it takes at least six months to process a license.
So even if you apply tomorrow, you won't expect to be "fully Licensed" until Q2 2020. That's not in your road map.
And what happens if they say "NO"? What happens to the BHF tokens you are selling as exchangeable 1-1 for regulated BHM equivalents? To the money you have collected in the pre-sale?
How can Bluehill hold a FINMA approved STO in Q4 2019 if, by the middle of November, they haven't even applied for the license to hold it, which takes six months to process?
And has it crossed anyone's mind that FINMA might just actually say NO, because what you are effectively doing is applying for retroactive approval to sell BHM tokens as you have already sold them, or a straight 1-1 entitlement to them, under the BHF label?
The idea that the supposedly experienced supposed team of financial experts you supposedly have, are assuming that the licensing authorities will approve this sort of abuse of their regulatory process is laughable.
But what's a different acronym between friends?

B.H.Mining has taken a more democratic approach by planning a Swiss-regulated Security Token Offering (STO) for BHM-Tokens....
The Pre-STO is for BHF-Tokens, which will be redeemable 1-for-1 with BHM-Tokens when the official STO takes place in Q4 of 2019.

And no tyvm, I don't want to come to Switzerland either.



this project is going to be shelved soon... so many shady info.
with this kind of project, the profile links of their team members should be available but not, only email addy is published!
we are talking huge amount of investments here, so it is a must that they should show at least their linkedin profiles.


Like I say bluehillfoundation, I don't need a lawyer to tell me you lied as did the white-paper. You remain quiet on this front.

Claiming that Bluehill Mining has a lawyer is a ruse to pass this scam off as legit. It is not legit.

Don't get me confused with a potential investor looking for information to solidify my decision to buy into this project - no no no. I am a community member that knows Blue Hill Mining is a SCAM. My intention is to bring this information to the public arena and then potential investors can make their choice - hopefully not to invest.

I will not be paying for flights to see an fictitious lawyer or a paid wanna-be lawyer. If indeed it were important to you to remove any cast doubts "in the professional and serious way that a project of this magnitude implies"... then you would have already done so. If you think having a lawyer talk to a community member would have cleared up any doubts, a project of this magnitude would have action this already before the sale of tokens. In fact a lawyer would have read the white-paper and told them it was rubbish and contradictory to each other, and you need to re-write them.

Let's move on.

Quote from the Blue Hill Mining white-paper:


Quote: “Due to legal and regulatory uncertainty in the United States of America, citizens and green card holders of…are prohibited from making contributions to Blue Hill Foundation and participating in the Token Sale”.

Quote: “Canadian citizens and person’s resident in and/or domiciled in Canada are specifically excluded from participating, either directly or indirectly, in this Token Sale”.

Quote: “Dutch citizens and person’s resident in and/or domiciled in the Netherlands are specifically excluded from participating, either directly or indirectly, in this Token Sale”.

Quote: “Persons domiciled in, resident in or purchasing from Japan are excluded from participating, either directly or indirectly, in this Token Sale”.

Quote: “Persons domiciled in, resident in or purchasing from the Republic of Korea are excluded from participating, either directly or indirectly, in this Token Sale”.    


https://www.bluehillfoundation.com/docs/terms-conditions.pdf


You claim to ALREADY be regulated in the Netherlands (FINMA),  want to be regulated in the US (SEC) and also Toronto (Canada) HOWEVER, no-one in these countries are allowed to purchase tokens, and my major point - it is NOT regulated.

You claim Blue Hill foundation is a Netherlands based company that owns Blue Hill Mining, yet the FINMA issue a warning against Blue Hill Mining and the business structure in the white-paper does not support this. Blue Hill Foundation is not found registered in the Netherlands nor is any other company mentioned in the business model, opposite to what the white-paper(s) state. I  wouldn't invest in this.

Let's not forget Blue Hill Mining is part of the SCAM by - Mize Network run by Adrian Jacuzzi (Global World Exchangers SL -GWE). He's been linked with the scams  EmGoldEx, prior to its demise and (failed) rebrand as Global InterGold.  Infinitum Flame/ Quark scam run by D'Arco and Arcas, via the GCR morph into Pool Miners/SARcoin and Onecoin... the list goes on.  

Did I mention the Spanish Financial Regulatory Body also issued a warning against GWE - Adrian Jacuzzi. All of the above has already been discussed throughly.

So why would I invest in Blue Hill Mining when the company behind it is run by a known scammer, and has a warning equivalent in Spain as the FINMA warning in the Netherlands? I wouldn't invest.

Why would I invest in Blue Hill Mining when community members like you lie and the white-paper tells lies? I wouldn't.

Why would I invest when Blue Hill Mining when the white-papers in places contradict each other (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152373.20). I wouldn't.

It's a bit late for you to back pedal to cover your scam. Simply put....