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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly
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pbfarmer
on 21/12/2019, 22:22:22 UTC
guys what is the danger of keeping tREF to high? I have seen somewhere that the HBM temps might go critical with it to high, but I'm not mining with my vega56@64, only gaming. now during winter with room temps 20-23C I'm not going over 63C on my HBM during heavy load.
these are my latest settings that I managed to get stable under tests/benches. I've been playing with this for the whole weekend. anything more than 1050mhz on HBM freq I get artefacts and crashes, so I left it there and went tightening the timing.

https://postimg.cc/5XR6nhG0

I'm a little disappointed cos I expected more out of samsung HBM when flashing v64bios and going higher on the voltage. I barely get the same results in tests/benches as with default bios and OC/UV/tightening:

https://postimg.cc/qhdBF4Gk

the card is revision C3

thanks.


Given that tREF controls how frequently the memory is refreshed (to overcome charge decay,) the main issue w/ a too high tREF is you will encounter data corruption as bits start flipping from not being refreshed frequently enough (this effect is accelerated by heat.)  And since a refresh is a series of reads/writes, i would think it should not be that different from other workloads as far as the memory is concerned - if anything the core will likely be working harder as it probably doesn't have to do much during a refresh.  It is possible that a refresh is easier on the mem than your standard gaming workload due to r/w size/frequency or something like that, in which case, yes, the mem would draw more power and generate more heat as it does less refreshing and more 'real' work.

As for the 64 bios flash, it's value is really dependent on the work profile of your application/game.  For example in the mining scenario, ethereum responds well to higher bandwidth, meaning higher clocks, which require more voltage and relaxed timings (which happens to be exactly what the bios changes.)  Other coins/algorithms may respond better to lower latency, which means tighter timings possibly requiring lower clocks (and possibly less voltage,) making the bios update less useful.

I believe games in general like the higher bandwidth, so I would think the flash would be helpful, but it's probably a more delicate balance between latency and bandwidth than many mining scenarios.

EDIT: Also, in case it wasn’t already apparent, your higher mem clock (vs stock) will likely require higher core voltage for the same cclk, because the infinity fabric, which shares power with the core, runs at (roughly) the same speed as the memory.  So the increased memory voltage resulting from the bios flash isn’t the end of the story...