True. Can't count the trashcoins in the value. That question that OP indicated struck me for a moment. Seems like we're just bouncing back and forth through 7k - 10k , so I personally agree with the questions of "when", especially we're getting a lot of adoption these days already and I wouldn't be surprised if we're gonna get back on our feet to 20k being the solid support to 50k. It won't be happening for like a decade but let's just what happens if surges would happen soon.