Quote from: nocher324 on February 24, 2020, 10:26:58 AM

The first time I traded with this person was last year, he purchased 1 Skybet account from me but never paid
He paid for the account in full in the end tough, after 2-3 weeks later of chasing. After that, we had an arguemnet and blocked each others on Telegram.

*You just contradicted yourself by saying i never paid and then I paid. I paid for it in full. There wouldn;t be any more business from you if I didnt pay, right?

Few months later, he contacted me again, with another Telegram account
He asked me to sell him more accounts and said that I'm the only legit seller he can trust
I told him I don't want to sell him more accounts as he had bad record, but he asked me to give him another chance and I agreed after he persuaded.

So I sold him 2 accounts at first, but apparently the buyer has no idea what he is doing and got the accounts suspended himself
The buyer uses IP from another country and same devices to stake on courtsiding (according to what he told me), anyone who knows this business knows this is totally a red flag
I used genuine ID, IP and VM to create the accounts, and most of my buyers have no such problem, so there's no chance it's the problem on my side

He asked me to help him unlock the accounts, which should never be my responsibility
We agreed the price of the account was for accounts only, documnets are not included
But I still provided the documents and helped him to solve the accounts out of generosity

*My mistake was I trusted you too much that you would help me out when the accounts got into trouble. Please don't say you did it out of generosity: we both know that you offered to help me for free and used that as your sales pitch to get me to pay for the accounts. I shouldn't have trusted you too uch for help, and it became more apparrent when you hacked into my accounts and used my debit card for purposes I didnt authorise.

The problem of the accounts were solved quickly after I sent the documents
After that, the person asked me what can he do to prevent getting suspended again

*Your documents only passed for 1 account. 4 others did not pass Skybet, and 2 account s I had you setup in Ladbrokes didn't pass verification for documents. Seller never offered a refund, only wanted me to use funds to get more accounts.

I told him he should use clean device and IPs, so the person paid me to help him set up VM and proxies on his Mac
I got everything done for him and he confirmed receipt of the service, but he doesn't have a clue how to use them and ask me to send him a tutorial
I said I can do that, and I won't charge extra, but he should pay me first for the 2 accounts he ordered and haven't paid yet
He paid and again, got the accounts suspended, before I had the chance to send him the tutorial
And he blamed me for the low quality accounts, which we all know it's not true, and threat me for a refund

*You agreed to help me set up the VM and provide IPs to use.
*IP's provided by seller were not working.
*Seller never did tutorial as agreed upon and he would use it as bait for me to buy more accounts to which i stupidly did.

Anyways, in short -
1. The buyer has a bad record
*thats according to you

2. I have delivered all the services the buyer requested for, even provided adviseand helped him with his issue
*you deleivered services but not all that you advertised

3. The buyer screwed he accounts himself but blaming me for bad accounts (If I deliver bad accounts he wouldn't buy accounts from me after months later)
*do you still think I can work with you

4. He is black-mailing me for a refund simply because he lost his money in casino
*I dont use the casino; im asking you for a refund for the services that were not provided and for the money you spent on my account on a bet you made without my permission

*Its my fault I trusted you too much that you would even try to create a neteller account using the details you gave me and try to withdraw the money on the accounts on to it without my knowledge.

*Im done asking for my money back. Its simple: if you had the money (as you have claimed that ACTSTA has made you rich), you would have easily returned it or did not resort to these dirty tactics to get money. Obviously you don't have it so why bother asing for something thats not even there.

*I will share also how you ask for money, using excuses as you need money for the internet cafe or you need money for a night out with friends. A rich guy usually doesnt behave this way.

5. I stopped replying to him because we will not negotiate with terrorist
*You entertain me.

This would be my final response as I believe anyone who knows this business can tell who is an amateur here now.
But I will still make few things clear before moving forward -

1. I never hacked an account according to what the buyer saying, I don't need to hack an account where I have no way to withdraw the fund to myself. The buyer used his card to make deposits into the account and we all know it's not possible to withdraw to another method.
2. The buyer claims I have an untrusted negative trust, if you check closely you will find out the user has been banned because of scamming and spamming. I left a negative trust on the user first, and he was just doing childish revenge and left me a negative trust. His reference doesn't even link to anywhere. Like the dejavu I'm having here now.
3. The buyer has issue with his method and he claims everyone who can't fulfill his unreasonable requests a scammer.
4. All of my Skybet accounts passed the verification before I delivered the accounts, I also sent the buyer the confirmation message from live chat. It's the buyer who got the accounts locked when Skybet asked for the additional documents. For the Ladbrokes accounts, he got one account locked himself, another account they want another proof of address, which I said I will sort it out but the buyer wanted a Skybet account as replacement which I have also delivered.
5. I made it very clear that I have all the documents and I can "help" to unlock the accounts in case there's an issue. We all know when you're doing arbing, fixing or courtsiding, there's always a chance that the accounts could get suspended due to the activity. Most of the sellers can't deal with the issue and buyer's fund will be locked on the accounts, but I have the experienced so I can "help" with that out of generosity. But when a buyer gets his accounts locked 5/5, it's apparently not normal, even though I still "helped" him with the issue in the end.
6. I told the buyer I need the money just because I wanted to make sure I get paid. I have paid my clients over 20k recently just in this single month for ACTSTA work and I have all the proof. So no, I don't need to hack or steal or scam any money according to what they buyer's saying.
7. I have always been generous to my clients as long as they treated me the same. I always pay extra to my clients even though we have agreed a lower percentage. If the buyer told me the truth that he lost his money instead of blackmailing me with make-up reason, then I would simply pay him out of generosity.

Again, this would be my final response as I have made everything clear now.