I agree with Urex. There are extremes on both sides.

AC has made many points that probably can't be denied. Your points are extremely well
documented on this thread over and over and anyone reading through here can't miss
them. Give it a break and get a life. As you say the war is won, so move on already.

The people who weren't drawn in hook, line and sinker by what MA is selling and didn't
get burned might want to have a forum here where they can freely discuss what they
think might be of value without being harassed be people who are unable to come to terms
and accept their own failings.