Re: ibminer’s factually false, defamatory, and reputationally scandalous statement
@moderator: Whoops, sorry.
ibminer, you have added here several serious allegations on your part—against me, and about others. As to myself, I have first-hand knowledge that you are wrong about everything except what I myself just said upthread a few hours ago; but I will set that aside for the moment. Overall, either you must have strong evidence to support your allegations, or your reply here is utterly despicable.
0. In substantial effect, you have unavoidably stated that the GirlsGoneBitcoin verification process was, and thus can be fooled by a 15-year-old boy using “software and video packs”. Also, all of alia’s customers on the forum (n.b. that I was never one of them).
If the GGB verification process is unreliable, then it would behoove you to inform those who are relying thereupon. If, in this case, it was actually fooled by a 15-year-old boy using “software and video packs”, then I myself relied on it to my detriment; and I should be let to know about that.
In the absence of sound evidence to the contrary, I will presume that theymos knows what the hell he is doing—and that you, ibminer, are slinging some very dangerous mud without thinking about the consequences.
1. You made a vague statement that alia/favours was “being supported by [me]”. What, exactly, do you mean by that?
For the record, the only “support” of any kind whatsoever that I ever gave to the alia account was reputational: I made the account significantly more forum-famous than it already was when I found it—which only occurred because it was already more than a little bit forum-famous. And aside from some innocently intended positive comments that I made about alia to specific individuals in PMs, almost all of that was in full public.view (forum posts and merit).
If you allege otherwise, be specific—and put up the evidence now. I know first-hand that you don’t have any, because I did nothing wrong as you are insinuating.
2. I actually have nothing to hide here. Please feel free to post the PMs:
I am calling you on this, because your unjust and inexcusable insinuations are damaging to me. Without even reviewing PMs that I have not looked at in over two years, I can affirmatively state that publishing my PM correspondence with you would not damage me at all, because I did nothing wrong other than to be innocently scammed by a scammer.
If you want to nitpick or twist on a word here or there (such as the pronouns that I used at various times during the development of a very confusing situation—oh, muh pronouns!), then I can explain anything that I said in its proper context.
If you are seeking to prove that I was “self-admitted” to have promoted the alia account, I think the point is moot: I myself just said essentially the same thing, on this thread, just a few hours ago (and I have made similar remarks to others in the past, in public and in private):
No offense taken. I was fooled; it was cold comfort that “alia” fooled many others, and had even obtained an unprecedented theymos neutral-tag verifying the account as a camgirl. The level at which I had indeed publicized alia did, in my judgment, impose on me a positive duty to spare no effort in actively contributing to the investigation by the anonymous scam_detector, RGBKey (whose red-tag was the warning that jolted me into taking scam_detector seriously), ibminer (which is why I did respect him—and I appreciated what he did then), theymos himself, you, and too many others succinctly to list. I never argued with anybody who made fun of me about this, or said that I made an error in judgment—which I admittedly did, and for which I took responsibility as much as I reasonably could.
Furthermore, I also consent to forum administrators or staff viewing my PMs sent to alia and received from alia, if they have any suspicions about me.
OP here:
Some of them are embarrassing in the “*cringe*” sense; I would not want for those to be published. None of them is in any way inculpatory of me. I think that admins and staff are sufficiently level-headed to view the matter objectively and dispassionately. If they have any questions, they may PM me. For obvious reasons, I do not want to say too much more about this in public.
But I do so say, just in case ibminer’s wrongful remarks about me have the predictable effect of causing admins or staff to have such suspicions about me as would be allayed if they were to review evidence already in their own possession.
3. Please state specifically which of my act and/or omissions you think were wrong, and what you think I should have done instead:
I was fooled by this scammer just as badly as anybody else. The alia account was used to scam some people for money. It was used to scam me for reputation-builiding.
I have all along reasonably taken responsibility for anything that I actually did. I have all along erred toward being critical of myself: I should have known better. I should have been more alert, more cautious. I should have analysed this situation in every detail. Yes, I am essentially victim-blaming myself using the same arguments used by scammers who rationalize that “fools deserve to be scammed”. That is acceptable for me to do to myself, because I have a right to hold myself to a much higher than ordinary standard for both astuteness and carefulness: I am smarter than this. It is not acceptable from ibminer—enough is enough!
Although I was moderately careless with a “female” situation (as most men are at least once or twice in their lives), I was not even negligent—much less knowingly engaged in any wrongdoing whatsoever.
It should not need to be said that when the scam accusation broke, I was in a situation in which I myself was shocked, caught off-guard, and initially confused as to the facts. Nevertheless, I promptly caught my bearings and not only cooperated with, but actively assisted the scam investigation to the best of my ability.
I am ashamed of having been fooled, but I am proud of how I handled it when I discovered that I had been fooled. To suggest that I did anything whatsoever wrong after that point is indefensible for you. So, put up or shut up: What did I do wrong, and what should I have done differently?
4. ...:
I never accused theymos of such nonsense. Keep trying.
How do you square that with your now-amplified statements quoted above? I really don’t want to spell this out for you.
And why are you tangling yourself in self-contradictions to focus this crap on me, of all people? I was never one of alia’s customers. I never saw an “alia” camshow—whether a live camgirl, or “software and video packs” as you allege. All that I did was to get overly excited about my lovely forum girlfriend, interact with the account publicly in ways that rapidly amplified its fame, send it a bunch of merit for posts that I thought were meritorious, brag too much in PMs to a few individuals who never accused me of anything for their own parts, and exchange some sexually explicit textual communications with what, in reliance on GGB verification, I believed to be a camgirl. So—why me?
(N.b., I still believe GGB verification much more than I believe you. At this point, I do not find you to be at all credible.)
There is more in ibminer’s post that should be addressed; but first things first...
Note: When I saw ibminer’s post, I was finishing a draft of a long reply to pugman. Abstract: Look up the word “tort”. And please never rely on Wikipedia legal arguments for anything important.
Combining the posts would make this far too long; thus, I have set it aside for now, and OTS-timestamped a copy of my draft in case I want to prove later what I was writing. (Should have done that with my February draft of what became OP here. OTS should be a habit.)
ibminer, you have added here several serious allegations on your part—against me, and about others. As to myself, I have first-hand knowledge that you are wrong about everything except what I myself just said upthread a few hours ago; but I will set that aside for the moment. Overall, either you must have strong evidence to support your allegations, or your reply here is utterly despicable.
0. In substantial effect, you have unavoidably stated that the GirlsGoneBitcoin verification process was, and thus can be fooled by a 15-year-old boy using “software and video packs”. Also, all of alia’s customers on the forum (n.b. that I was never one of them).
Based on the research I did back then, it was clear to me that favours was not paying anyone, it was him, likely using software and video packs (all commonly used by e-whores)..
Actually, you are more than questioning theymos’ reliability: You are directly impugning it. I and many others rely on this as sterling information:
If the GGB verification process is unreliable, then it would behoove you to inform those who are relying thereupon. If, in this case, it was actually fooled by a 15-year-old boy using “software and video packs”, then I myself relied on it to my detriment; and I should be let to know about that.
In the absence of sound evidence to the contrary, I will presume that theymos knows what the hell he is doing—and that you, ibminer, are slinging some very dangerous mud without thinking about the consequences.
1. You made a vague statement that alia/favours was “being supported by [me]”. What, exactly, do you mean by that?
Based on the research I did back then, it was clear to me that favours was not paying anyone, it was him, likely using software and video packs (all commonly used by e-whores).. and being supported by you.
For the record, the only “support” of any kind whatsoever that I ever gave to the alia account was reputational: I made the account significantly more forum-famous than it already was when I found it—which only occurred because it was already more than a little bit forum-famous. And aside from some innocently intended positive comments that I made about alia to specific individuals in PMs, almost all of that was in full public.view (forum posts and merit).
If you allege otherwise, be specific—and put up the evidence now. I know first-hand that you don’t have any, because I did nothing wrong as you are insinuating.
2. I actually have nothing to hide here. Please feel free to post the PMs:
nullius == alia's main supporter, promoter, and the person who made alia who he was on the forum (<- self-admitted, I won't bother posting the PMs unless nullius would like me to).
I am calling you on this, because your unjust and inexcusable insinuations are damaging to me. Without even reviewing PMs that I have not looked at in over two years, I can affirmatively state that publishing my PM correspondence with you would not damage me at all, because I did nothing wrong other than to be innocently scammed by a scammer.
If you want to nitpick or twist on a word here or there (such as the pronouns that I used at various times during the development of a very confusing situation—oh, muh pronouns!), then I can explain anything that I said in its proper context.
If you are seeking to prove that I was “self-admitted” to have promoted the alia account, I think the point is moot: I myself just said essentially the same thing, on this thread, just a few hours ago (and I have made similar remarks to others in the past, in public and in private):
I would personally go with "shilled for scammer"(no hard feelings @OP) but that's me 
No offense taken. I was fooled; it was cold comfort that “alia” fooled many others, and had even obtained an unprecedented theymos neutral-tag verifying the account as a camgirl. The level at which I had indeed publicized alia did, in my judgment, impose on me a positive duty to spare no effort in actively contributing to the investigation by the anonymous scam_detector, RGBKey (whose red-tag was the warning that jolted me into taking scam_detector seriously), ibminer (which is why I did respect him—and I appreciated what he did then), theymos himself, you, and too many others succinctly to list. I never argued with anybody who made fun of me about this, or said that I made an error in judgment—which I admittedly did, and for which I took responsibility as much as I reasonably could.
Furthermore, I also consent to forum administrators or staff viewing my PMs sent to alia and received from alia, if they have any suspicions about me.
OP here:
As a further precaution, despite my potential embarrassment with some of them, I deliberately left intact all of my PMs with alia—just in case the forum’s administration were ever to have any suspicions about me in the matter. (The PMs are still there—*cringe*.)
Some of them are embarrassing in the “*cringe*” sense; I would not want for those to be published. None of them is in any way inculpatory of me. I think that admins and staff are sufficiently level-headed to view the matter objectively and dispassionately. If they have any questions, they may PM me. For obvious reasons, I do not want to say too much more about this in public.
But I do so say, just in case ibminer’s wrongful remarks about me have the predictable effect of causing admins or staff to have such suspicions about me as would be allayed if they were to review evidence already in their own possession.
3. Please state specifically which of my act and/or omissions you think were wrong, and what you think I should have done instead:
Your actions after he was identified showed me you were not someone I, nor anyone, should trust the judgement of.
I was fooled by this scammer just as badly as anybody else. The alia account was used to scam some people for money. It was used to scam me for reputation-builiding.
I have all along reasonably taken responsibility for anything that I actually did. I have all along erred toward being critical of myself: I should have known better. I should have been more alert, more cautious. I should have analysed this situation in every detail. Yes, I am essentially victim-blaming myself using the same arguments used by scammers who rationalize that “fools deserve to be scammed”. That is acceptable for me to do to myself, because I have a right to hold myself to a much higher than ordinary standard for both astuteness and carefulness: I am smarter than this. It is not acceptable from ibminer—enough is enough!
Although I was moderately careless with a “female” situation (as most men are at least once or twice in their lives), I was not even negligent—much less knowingly engaged in any wrongdoing whatsoever.
It should not need to be said that when the scam accusation broke, I was in a situation in which I myself was shocked, caught off-guard, and initially confused as to the facts. Nevertheless, I promptly caught my bearings and not only cooperated with, but actively assisted the scam investigation to the best of my ability.
I am ashamed of having been fooled, but I am proud of how I handled it when I discovered that I had been fooled. To suggest that I did anything whatsoever wrong after that point is indefensible for you. So, put up or shut up: What did I do wrong, and what should I have done differently?
4. ...:
As such, ibminer has knowingly falsely accused both me and, by unavoidable implication, theymos of peddling “underage” sex on a forum as to which various entities would relish an excuse to attack for censorship purposes.
I never accused theymos of such nonsense. Keep trying.
How do you square that with your now-amplified statements quoted above? I really don’t want to spell this out for you.
And why are you tangling yourself in self-contradictions to focus this crap on me, of all people? I was never one of alia’s customers. I never saw an “alia” camshow—whether a live camgirl, or “software and video packs” as you allege. All that I did was to get overly excited about my lovely forum girlfriend, interact with the account publicly in ways that rapidly amplified its fame, send it a bunch of merit for posts that I thought were meritorious, brag too much in PMs to a few individuals who never accused me of anything for their own parts, and exchange some sexually explicit textual communications with what, in reliance on GGB verification, I believed to be a camgirl. So—why me?
(N.b., I still believe GGB verification much more than I believe you. At this point, I do not find you to be at all credible.)
There is more in ibminer’s post that should be addressed; but first things first...
Note: When I saw ibminer’s post, I was finishing a draft of a long reply to pugman. Abstract: Look up the word “tort”. And please never rely on Wikipedia legal arguments for anything important.
Combining the posts would make this far too long; thus, I have set it aside for now, and OTS-timestamped a copy of my draft in case I want to prove later what I was writing. (Should have done that with my February draft of what became OP here. OTS should be a habit.)