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Re: 🔥 FAKE: Defamation At Its Worst During Chipmixer Applications 🔥
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amishmanish
on 21/05/2020, 10:29:50 UTC
I am not side stepping anything, I am directly addressing your baseless accusation. Since you have chosen to attempt to make a lie truth through repetition, I am just going to start quoting some of the many responses I have already given to your argument which you refuse to actually address in lieu of repeating yourself like a parrot who desperately wants a cracker.

You completely sidestepped addressing the fact that I proved you were presenting events out of order. You were adding Turkish users to your trust list before Sept 7th, 2019, the day you involved yourself in their dispute with Timelord. There's no way I can make it any more clear to everybody than I already did.

Now stop lying.
TECHSHARE seems to be saying that he does not need to explain his reasons to you. If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.

Hi TECHSHARE. I want to present a case before you. Please hear me out. You have an impressive trading history. You seems to be a person who wants solutions rather than drama but due to past conflicts with Vod etc., it seems that you have taken a stand against the "DT1 clique" that some people complain about. I can see that you don't like people going into the depths of a users history and bringing out their actions to gauge motivation, leaving negs and feedback on its basis. Yet, don't you think that the forum is more or less only self-policed against those who want to only milk for money through alts in campaigns or wish to promote alt-coins so they can get rich from Alts trading?

You add users to counter-balance DT-1. That does not seem to be a good reason. I saw that when you were trying to moderate honorably between AbitNut and that StonerStanley guy, it ended up being frustrating for yourself because the users didn't exactly turn out to be as reasonable as you had hoped.

ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.

I retract my previous request for resolution for this user. He is too dumb and rude for his own good. You guys can have this one, he has it all under control.

Didn't that incident show that when someone of your stature (Old member, lots of trades, looked up to by quite a few) trusts people, it has to be a very well thought out step?? You are effectively empowering people. Do we empower people first and then see how they behave or do we judge them beforehand whether there past behavior demonstrates worthiness for more responsibility and power on Bitcoin forum?

I think the whole reason your trust inclusions were leading to such a conflict is because there seems to be a disagreement on the above questions.

Without going too much into the details, I think you should reconsider this stand of extending freedom to mean that everyone should be allowed to furnish in the forum irrespective of the fact that there motivations seem to be based solely on money. Money isn't a bad motivation but it shouldn't be the sole motivation. I know there is a lot of background to this but as far as i see from Vispilio's behavior, he has been going through this devolution of:
1. They are racist so they oppose me
2. The DT-1 are conspiring to keep Turkish members off "lucrative sig bounties"
3. The DT-1 is being controlled by Blockstream to keep Alts away from this forum.
Please look at this:
ps. just the fact that genuinely insightful users like bonesjonesreturns have to hide behind alternate aliases to speak the truth on this forum,

while terrorists like ~lauda manage to sustain artificially net positive DT trust sheets, is all the evidence you need that this forum is broken,

Meanwhile more and more people seem to believe that Blockstream just wants to keep it that way in an attempt to silence all crypto competition with its paid trolls that have taken over Bitcointalk

I can't help but feel that you are allowing yourself fall victim to the adage "Enemy of my enemy is my friend" a bit too much . Obviously, this is all just my interpretation based on what i judge from your words. You can have your reasons and are not obliged to explain to anyone. I am not trying to convince you. I am just explaining why I am convinced this way. Your desire to have objective standards for Trust ratings is a worthy target. It should be discussed in a solution-approach manner with everyone. Not as a kind of political stand between two warring parties that others take advantage of.

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At the point we have reached, considering the old flags about Lauda, the hatred and hateful understanding that she spread in the forum attracted the attention of the entire forum, not only us (Turks).
LOL! What up with you guys and this "we request the manager", "we request the management". Plus, we love Turkey out here. Its a great place. Isn't Istanbul the Constantinople of old? Also, Saying "Turkish Monkeys" does't mean that its meant for all people from turkey, Its only meant for the monkeys/ baboons from Turkey who cannot see beyond the loss of "lucrative signature bounties". I am sure there are a lot of perfectly good Turkish men out here in the forum. Just that many of them are afraid of global because of the propaganda from their elders.

Just get over trying to prove this "racism". Tell the people not to go overboard with crypto scams or multiple accounts for bounties. Other Locals have gone through that same evolution. The people there self-corrected. Scams still persist but as a community, we don't try to defend wrongdoing. Relax! You are doing fine.