I can tell you Lisk bag holder's are the joke of them all, they're just don't want to admit it. From having 15,000 Bitcoin to now just having 2,500 Bitcoin and still offer nothing. The good thing is Max made out hundreds of millions dollars, which is very good for a kid pretty much is still breastfeeding his mom. Isn't he's like 17 or 18 about 4 years ago when Lisk come out? He's seem and look that young and he's making every decision for Lisk.