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Re: [Unofficial] Coinpot.co - new microwallet
by
grahamlyons
on 20/08/2020, 09:39:05 UTC
The proof is right here:


Way before to 26/07: everything was normal, I was earning from the challenges, like rwinkel does, withdrawing everytime I could convert my tokens to at least 10000 sats
26/07 to 15/08: the machine gets broken, I'm losing every day, all of a sudden
15/08: back to normal. Just for one day. Why? No idea
16/08 to today: machine broken again

Just stating what has been said here numerous times: it usually works, the 0% house edge is believeable, but some days, you just have to lose, you have no choice, the machine won't let you win. It was the same for me, all went well and some rare days it got weird.
Except now it's been like that for 3 weeks.

You can have bad days once in a while, but you can't lose EVERYDAY for 3 weeks in a row.
I think the graph just speaks for itself.

You can't, for 167 rolls, lose 20 times in a row but never, at least once, win twice in a row, that's just impossible. ^^


this isn't proof of any sort of scam, or a non-0% house edge though!
at best, you are just providing evidence that sometimes you lose on the multiplier - which is not a surprise.
at worst you are just cherry-picking some bad data to try to prove a point
coinpot has "0% house edge" and is "provably fair" - neither of these terms guarantee that you will always win, nor that you will always lose, nor that you will always end up even.

as i have said before, if you are genuinely losing every day then why the hell do you continue doing it? do you like throwing money away?
the only logical answer to me is that you are full of bullshit and just trying to make coinpot out to be a scam
perhaps you have a motive for this, i dont know - but its very transparent and tedious now

the same sort of accusations happen on all dice/gambling sites - see the freebitcoin threads and numerous threads in the gambling section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0
its usually people who have some sort of grudge against the site, or just dont understand gambling

What's getting tedious is how you're always making excuses for CoinPot. Their multiplier is a total scam. "Provably fair" is a lie. They don't allow you to set your own custom seed for auto-rolls except for the first roll. They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house.

its provably fair - click on the Provably Fair button and it explains exactly how its calculated
unless they have somehow broken the hashing algorithm used by many dice/casino sites then there is no way it can be a scam
in that screen you can set the client seed for each roll, not just the first roll

"They can very easily set the client seed to something that will roll in a number range that favors the house."
how is the even possible?
they set the seed before you submit the roll - so the rolled number is basically set in stone at that point.
how do they know if you will roll high or low this time or change the x2/x10/etc multiplier?
if you think they are fixing it, then just do the opposite (i.e. choose high instead of low etc) and you will win!

sorry to be tedious, but you idiots all started it for fucks sake Grin
i'll defend coinpot and i'll defend freebitcoin because i know they are both honest, quality sites that are constantly attacked by knuckle-draggers on this forum

I know how 'provably fair' is supposed to work. I've even made my own verifiers for other websites such as FreeBitco.in's lambo lottery. Coinpot's provable fairness is very flawed due to the fact you can't set a persistent client seed when auto-roll is activated. If the client seed is constantly being switched on you then the only way to see what it is would be to click on the provably fair button before every roll which is impractical and impossible during auto-rolls. This means that the house can just choose a non-random client seed for you that will benefit them. Switching from high to low would only work on manual betting and I've never argued that manual betting is rigged. For automatic betting you have to stick with one side for the entire session until you've reached the desired amount of rolls. They of course know which side you're going to pick ahead of time in this case because it's set from the first roll.

 Cry
well you have kind of answered your own question there then
of course you cant manually change the client seed for every roll during AUTO-ROLL because then it wouldn't be automatic would it??
if you need that capability then turn off auto-roll and do manual rolling instead, for which it is possible