Re: [GPUC] GPU Coin | Reboot Sunday March 9th

Quote from: micryon on March 04, 2014, 12:06:05 PM

Quote from: Anonymous on March 04, 2014, 11:53:34 AM

Why were you "pulled off" of the project?

The cryptowest team was first to claim that they had already finished the code for GPUcoin (I had to take care of some family stuff yesterday, so i couldn't start on the code till after dinner). The CEO of the project spoke to them and was more comfortable with that team, since they had a full team of multiple people behind the project.. whereas I'm just one guy, and a hobbyist at best. So I bowed out since it seemed they had things under control (but i still finished my reference code and uploaded to github just for kicks).

Thought it may not seem it, it was probably the right decision at the time.. I can't fault the CEO for choosing to go that way. There are people who want to do this stuff seriously, consider themselves consultants for the business.. and they will achieve that manifest destiny eventually (if you believe what you will become, you will become it). I on the other hand, am just doing this for fun... like with realstackcoin; just giving back to the community.

I really want both GPUCoin, and Cryptowest's teams to be successful. The more adept people there are in this industry, the more powerful all this will become. So I'll make myself available to provide what they need.. whether it be to write/deploy the whole thing.. or just help out in any way, over this week. I do think they have the ability to do this. Perhaps just rushed under the gun. This kinda stuff happens a lot with at any number tech companis.. especially when engineers are under pressure. Some time to regroup to test code.. 20/80 rule and all.. it'll get done.

I'm super confident that the devs in cryptowest's team are competent people that can do this.

Quote from: AcidSplash on March 04, 2014, 04:58:34 PM

"Cryptowest" is a loser. I've worked with so called "developers" like this before. They are fat, lazy and have almost no actual programming skills.

Most people think that developers have no social skills but that's entirely not the case. I for one have to filter all the technical details out and put it in words that people with little or no technical skills can understand. This development team did nothing of the sort. In fact there was little to no communication on their end. They were just stringing along pool owners and miners and wasting their time. "Bugs" in the software that are overlooked can usually be forgiven by the community. However for this to take place there needs to be a strong open level of communication which was simply not present.

The only clear path that I see is to fire the entire development team. Start over from scratch and try to savage the reputation of the coin. Even though I am not an IPO holder, you could further restore confidence by returning all money that was invested in to the coin.

Quote from: trademark on March 04, 2014, 04:40:36 PM

I originally voted for scrypt N. If it takes going back to scrypt to make the next launch successful. I am down with it. This coin HAD a lot of support last night. The difficulty jumped up quick. I think this could still work but launch date should be on Saturday since Sunday here in the USA is Monday in other countries and people need to work.

P.S. Who thinks IPOs should get a little more for all the troubles in the last 2 launches? I say, it wouldn't hurt to premine an extra 100M and spread it out evenly to all the IPOs. Still a lot less than 50% premine that Auroracoin had. Just a thought.

ATTENTION PLEASE!

After all of us are tired and sick of this day or night (depending on his timezone), I think we need to sit down, calm, try not to be mad and as a community vote for the future or death of this project.
I am going to share with you my opinion and suggestions, would like to hear community opinions as well and I am not forcing anyone to be tied to my statements or back them.

1. First, while the reputation of this coin is already harmed to a severe level, my opnion still is, that behind that project we still have an innovative and promising business model, maybe the first one to keep one alt coins price alive, due to the simple fact that the coins purpose will not be only they to be mined and dumped (soon or later), but USED for something! Secondly, from what I hear from other folks as a behavior pattern from the CEO and my own impression with him, I can conclude that he is NOT a scammer. What we faced here was just not a polite, nervous, and incompetent way of trying to get launching the coin, mainly due to technical incompetence of the devs, nervousness spread all around and lack of solid planning, organisation and communication. While at least for me these problematic points seem easier to get fixed, I still believe we can start from the begning, IF the community have not lost confidence in the project entirely. Me myself also went mad at some point and maybe tought and said wrong things, however, after being away for a few hours, on a fresh mind I can see things more positive now.

What is your opinon - should this project go further or not?

2. Secondly, cryptowest, as some guy already mentioned, is in my opinion nothing but a teenager smoking pot, or even worse, adult, behaving like teenager, and believeing he is some "professional developer", which is even worse scenario! And yes, cryptowest, I am ready to tell you directly this if I meet you once! You made the highest anti-advertisment this night/day as proofing you are an unique hybrid of incompetent programmer and rude guy with terrible communication skills as well.

What is your opinon - should cryptowest continue working on the project or not?

3. Third, my opinion is, that micryon is an extremely nice and humble guy. My experience in life, however, also points that in most cases people who are not claiming to know everything in most cases turn out to be more competitive than the haughty ones like cryptowest, advertising to everyone their "professional coin development service", and finally showing that they can not do anything but a total mess. Do you guys realise that they have even not changed the block reward when forking panda ?? Well, I was also silent till now as I do not accept myself a specialist in the specific area of programming altcoins. However, while being an IT professional for years and runnning my own IT company, after what I saw, I really think that I can hardly get it worse than cryptowest. So I am going to suggest to prepare the next launch of the coin but *ONLY* if I do it together with micryon. I believe both of us can do the job well. I am not trying to promote myself as a developer and I do not care if the CEO and community will approve us to take this project. I am just amazed and desparate from what I saw so far and I really want to give it a try myself because, as I said, I hardly believe I can do it that bad. However, if I do it, I would require from the CEO a systematic, NON-RUSHING, planned and calmed down timeline, say, if needed, one week, but with lots of testing, providing finally a smooth launch.

What is your opinon - should micryon and me replace cryptowest and try to get this coin finally working or no? Please, opinion of both community and CEO needed here!

4. Forth, if you agree on going further with this coin and still want a relaunch, regardless if you trust and choose me as a developer or not, what is your opinion on the algo of the coin? I can see a lot of folks complaining about the scrypt-n, and some reporting burnt GPUs. We still have alternatives, as pure scrypt, scrypt-jane, Keccak, quark (note, the last two are actually not fully asic resistant!). I would personally go with pure scrypt or scrypt-jane. At the end, if so much guys are having troubles setting their rigs to mine that (please, read few pages back, one guy even corrupted his PC when he started the rigs with scrypt-n!!!), I think it would be a nice idea the CEO to submit a new poll regarding the algo.

Please, all of you guys, read carefuly, think, vote and write in the thread, and let the CEO decide what course he should take. And once again, think fresh, not tillted! You know what they say - the morning is wiser than the evening. Forcing the N-th failed launch with a total lack of communication during night time for devs (and american folks) was extremely wrong decision at least IMO and it logicaly didn't ended with anything good.