anyway i was right about nvidia "double sell" technique

3080, 3070 sold out

3090 for sale

3080ti/super 20gb, 3070ti/super 16gb to be released

if you spend $700 for 3080 and spend another $8-900 on 3080ti, that's more than $1500 (3090 price). i said just get the 3090 for your gaming needs.

3080 vs 3080ti is may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080 buyers upgrade hehe.