wow that worked!!
thanks so much man
1 card going 450+ other just over 400 cant figure out why it wont go same speed

cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum.flappycoinpool.com:3353 -u ball.sack -p x --thread-concurrency 8193 --lookup-gap 0 --gpu-engine 1060 --gpu-memclock 1490 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 256 -I 18 -g 2 -X 4
that look right?
edit: ok restarted the machine now im getting 450 each card. Cannot thank you enough! you helped me so much. leave your btc, flappy or kdc address and I send something your way at the end of next week