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Re: Suggestion to make rank-up more difficult
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GazetaBitcoin
on 20/10/2020, 06:56:48 UTC
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Yet again I have to disagree with you my fellow cinephile & spambuster, and repeat what I said before, that just because it was easy for you to reach Legendary merit requirement way ahead of the curve doesn't mean that it should be made harder in general. You are not an average bitcointalk user, not by time spent here and your knowledge, you even have experience in running news website, and when theymos decided on those numbers, he probably had an average  users in mind, and not experienced writers, crypto experts and generally creme de la creme of the forum.

99% of the new users give up after few months

Or look at these numbers from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard, rank of the people who created account between 1.1.2019-31.12.2019. Numbers are not the best to say the least, and show that it's not so easy for new users to rank up.


https://public.tableau.com/shared/B8ZB5M7FT?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

I understand what you're saying. But I'm thinking that maybe not the difficulty of ranking up is the problem with all these account. It is possible that their lack of determination brought them in this situation. If these users would have been motivated to rank up and to help the forum and to help themselves too by learning from the forum, then those numbers may be bigger. It's hard to find a motivation though. Indeed, maybe for some the rank up criteria may look hard. But in case they don't even try to achieve the criteria, the criteria will never be filled. Besides, it's also possible that a substantial number of those which "gave up trying" were in part accounts created by entities similar to Vitor Services (just for spamming / farming purposes); they could be accounts of users which were interested only in earning money from the forum and seeing they can;t earn money so easy they decided to head to other horizons (such as CryptoTalk). I can't say for sure what percentage represents the two types I mentioned, but for sure some of them were in these cases. And they influenced the overall low numbers. For the rest of the users contributing to the low numbers shown by Ddmr I think, in part, are those which did not find a good motivation and, in part, those for which the rank up was indeed hard... But I certainly don;t believe that those numbers are so small only due to users which found ranking up to be too difficult.

That means there are no legendary members and only 5 are potential to become Legends in 2021 from that time frame.

Although what I'll write here won't change these low numbers, there is a chance to have more Legendary members. I'm not sure how Ddmr counted, but I think he counted those members by their actual rank. But some of them - let's say some of the Full Members - could have earned already the merits for being Hero but they're mentioned by Ddmr as Full Members because this is their actual rank. If this is the case, it means for sure that the real number of Hero will be bigger at some point in the future, when these Full Members with more than 500 merits will also meet the activity criterion for being Hero. And the same applies for other ranks. For example, there are 21 Sr. Members and 5 Heroes. From these, maybe a few earned already more than 1000 merits so for sure they'll be Legendary members when the activity will allow them. I'm not 100% sure if this is the case (Ddmr can correct me if I'm wrong).

Last but not the least, congrats on reaching 1000 merit, well deserved. Cheers!

Thank you so much, Rikafip! Much appreciated! It's been a nice journey to this point!