Post
Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: #2880133 “Slbtc”
by
nullius
on 16/11/2020, 21:42:04 UTC
(I may update OP with this after I have time to read through the thread against Rainbowsky, and/or if the connection is clearly confirmed.)  Rainbowsky (trust page) has active Flag #2406.

I have supported both flags and connected accounts will be tagged shortly. Thanks for spending your time to detect all these connected accounts.

Thanks.  Credit re Rainbowsky goes to owlcatz for calling out Rainbowsky to begin with, to 1miau for inferring the probable connection with “Slbtc”, and to owlcatz for bringing it up here.

I only got into this because the user started a troll topic in Meta, which staff have since wholly trashed (Loyce’s archive); and upon further investigation, I found that either it is a scammer, or it is a troll trolling with troll-scam threads that could actually cause somebody to lose money (e.g., the advocacy of Martingale gambling as an “investment”).



On Trusting Trust Feedback

Most unexpected thing is that still people exist who don't think twice before giving positive feedback to someone like "Rainbowsky" just after a single trade or transaction. I am clearly seeing +1 green trust on his profile where multiple red tags are dazzling on the other side. After having this update its pretty much clear to us that we will see more connected accounts which are controlling by the same person.

That is a major concern of mine.  Many users complain about negative trust, but not enough people are complaining about the careless sending of positive trust feedback!  It is certainly good cause to ~exclude.  If/when I take the time to suss out who is bringing cheap positive feedbacks into my trust network (probably on level 2), I will ~exclude them all; I already see very few of them, due to my careful selection of my inclusions list and the many exclusions that I already make.

Scammers know that they can pull a mini “long con” with just a few little trades.  Another common scammer tactic is to build trust at negligible cost and effort by taking, then repaying small loans.  In the local boards, positive trust is also often given for translations (oft even low-quality translations, though that is not the real issue).

I am extremely conservative in matters of trust.  I do not trust easily; and most of all, I do not vouch lightly.  If you have been trustworthy to me and you do not receive positive feedback, please do not take that as a slight.  It simply means that I do not yet know you well enough to vouch for you to entire world.  Positive trust feedback from me is meaningful, because my standards are high.
I am ultraconservative in matters of trust;
... “trust is hard to earn, easy to lose”. ...

There are certain empirical facts about trust known by experience to anyone over the age of thirty.
I am liberal with negatives, and conservative with positives; for I distrust easily, but I am careful in choosing whom I trust.

A good post in the Russian forum (needs merit when I catch up with some other issue):
Зеленый - цвет безопастности, спокойствия, уверенности. Даже на светофорах сигнал дающий дорогу и показывающий пешеходам что сейчас их время - зеленый. На многих форумах связанных с финансовыми делами или торговлей зеленый это тоже признак надежного торговца. Поэтому все равно, некоторые люди будут воспринимать зеленые отзывы как весомый аргумент при сделке.

И опять таки, негодяи очень часто пытаются этим воспользоваться. Они не глупые в этом плане по крайней мере. Они как раз используют рептильные качества (сложный речевой оборот, хе хе) как то умение манипулировать для такого. И жертвы как мы видим находятся.

I also know that Lauda was aghast at how cheaply some people give positive trust feedback.