Re: PSA: Screenshots are not more secure than quotes, and are harder to read. (Etc.)
What, does the forum (and especially, Democratic DT) consist of five-year-olds who prefer pictures to text? (No, wait—don’t answer that.)
Screenshots are awful for:
- The imperfect eyesight of anyone over the age of forty.
- Copying and pasting text for further discussion.
- Mobile devices with small screens.
- Screen readers for the blind.
- ...USABILITY NIGHTMARE...
N.b. that not all of those use cases can be adequately served by right-clicking to view the image outside the forum’s CSS styling.
besides, peloso didn't disagree with screenshots :
peloso’s opinion is always irrelevant.
...so they must be real. It has been always like that, Bob says something, then Alice says it is not true, then Bob quote some words, then Alice ask them to provide screenshot then Bob post screenshot.
This is what I am against, and why I am taking the screenshot issue so seriously: Security theatre provides a false sense of security!
This forum is riddled with asinine security-theatre stupidity, especially the public “I verified this signature!” statements in key-staking threads.
Nullian Verification
Local rules: [...]
Do not publicly say that you have verified a statement. This gives a false sense of security, and tends to inculcate in the public a habit of relying others to “verify”, instead of verifying for themselves. This is crypto!
Do not publicly say that you have verified a statement. This gives a false sense of security, and tends to inculcate in the public a habit of relying others to “verify”, instead of verifying for themselves. This is crypto!
If Bob and Alice play the little dance that you describe, then they are wrong—and you know better. They should learn that a screenshot has no greater evidentiary value than a quote. I am attempting to educate the users.
I myself only use screenshots of forum posts or PMs when I wish to illustrate a point that could not be adequately conveyed by plain text—for example, or for a contrary example.
It is for the greater good of the forum that SOON, I WILL BANE USERS WHO POST SCREENSHOTS WHEN A QUOTE WOULD SUFFICE! MUAHAHAHA!
...so they must be real. It has been always like that...
Back on topic: peloso used *extremely* improper tactics to attempt to influence efialtis’ trust list. I will let the PM exchange speak for itself.
Because trust system abuse is actually an important forum issue, I have reconstructed the PMs from efialtis’ screenshots, including compensation for his Greek timezone. Timestamps should show in the timezone that you have in your local forum settings. By the way, observe how peloso expects instant responses to his all-important demands.
I prefer to use this as the reference link for my own feedback. For those who wish to do likewise, an anchor tag has been provided so that your reference link can skip the above discussion of screenshots.
hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list
recommend you to include me to your trust list
hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list
recommend you to include me to your trust list
Hey
Why is that? I am not so much into the politics here to be honest but I didn’t like that continuous „war“ you guys are having.
this is not my war and not i began this
you distrusted me for their ( gangs )
but you must know i can answer
i not want distrust you cos i bot know you
but if i do it you will out from D1
hii
recommend you to include me to your trust list
recommend you to include me to your trust list
Hey
Why is that? I am not so much into the politics here to be honest but I didn’t like that continuous „war“ you guys are having.
you not so much into the politics but you honestly distrusted me ((
i see nothing changed 
ok i distrust you to and you out of from D1
it may change in the future anytime you want
ok i distrust you to and you out of from D1
it may change in the future anytime you want
For the record: I have been preparing an action against peloso since on or about 9 November. That is the reason for my interest in this thread, and not vice versa.