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Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lambo Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲
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IurisNostrum
on 08/12/2020, 22:45:13 UTC
Time to debunk and address this shady and potentially fraudulent statement by Stake

Given that we are taking bets on the result of the election a winning Trump bet will only be possible if certain criteria are satisfied. All of the following would need to occur:

First of all, Stake has ZERO legal authority to set criteria differing from the legal output outlined in the 12th Amendment of the US Constitution.

Trump receives 270+ electoral college votes

This will be the likely outcome but to be precise, even if a contingent election goes on a tie, the US Constitution provides the solution. The only legal outcome is the outcome related to the US Constitution, there's no interpretation.

Biden concedes

This is ridiculous because is not outlined anywhere in the US Constitution and it doesn't produce legal effects

If Trump is democratically elected by the people and is recognized as the legitimate president of the USA, then Trump bettors will get paid.

Who decides is democratically elected? Stake bias or the US Constitution? The latter obviously

Scenarios where Trump bets will NOT be declared a win:

Trump successfully carries out a coup

This shows how who wrote this fell from the media bias because a "coup" would require changing the US Constitution, which would "de facto" invalidate the whole election

It's also funny because the "coup" has been tried by Social Media, Big Tech and Mainstream Media bias. The US President is just disputing the biggest discovered fraud in US history and he's doing it accordingly to the US Constitutional process that guess what, exists to safeguard exactly from fraud (which is the real coup" if it was Biden doing that, the fake media would never use the "coup" rhetoric but they would instead say that's important to preserve voter integrity, funny double standard here.

Nobody can do a "coup" in the USA, it's literally impossible, media are trying to say that questioning a fraud undermines the integrity but saying that the sitting president is staging a "coup" doesn't undermine, however, the constitutional process is working and the US Supreme Court will take a big case raised by the state of Texas against MI WI PA GA AZ, however, casual news consumers will never know this

Is voted in by the states

This is in the US Constitution so you must pay.

Simply refuses to leave the White House in January

This is actually the only valid point, but it's ridiculous to think that in the US an illegitimate President can remain in the White House

Any similar contentious outcome


After Jan 20 2020, any contentious outcome would take place only AFTER the President is sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So the election would've already produced legal effects and there would already be a winner, so a contentious outcome after Jan 20 would not change the election result as it's not disputed via the Constitution but rather via an impeachment procedure that already recognizes the new President as such.
We will do our best to employ logic and reasonability around our outcomes as more information comes into play.


Legal reference to this:


You could've just said, if Trump is sworn in, bettors will be paid. That's it, easy. Or even better you should've stick to your odd provider which has not graded Biden bet, but instead you graded it manually at your own risk and later have produced this misleading and potentially fraudulent statement when even Las Vegas didn't grade the bet. Additionally, you gave free money to biden people, while you had the legal right to not do so and later produce this statement in which you don't have any legal right to handle the bet this way. A piece of advice, do not concede to these demands because if you concede to these demands you can be exploited again and again

Additionally, I think that in the end you'll make this right but you should either delete or correct this statement because it makes you look inexperienced in the political field and it doesn't look good at all. You should've listened to your CEO @micro which is the only one that expressed the right opinion in this sense. There are bigger platforms with million dollar lawyers that have been paid for this, if such platform handled the bet that way there is a reason no?


Stake should hedge on Trump if they didn't already and they better be prepared to pay accordingly to the Constitutional outcome of the election, not Stake interpretation. You should've listened to your odd provider and save a lot of money. In any case, if Trump is sworn in on Jan 20 and all providers grade the bet Stake doesn't pay, be prepared to get a class action lawsuit and lose all you've built. And @stunna shouldn't make statements like "some crypto betting already settled for biden" because it makes him look incompetent similarly to those crypto incompetents that already settled the bet because media says so, Unibet has understood their mistake and corrected. Many more will follow. You should've just followed the industry standard, that would've saved you a lot of money. Make it right and be prepared because I will not get a political take, but I'll just say that Trump will win when the fraud is exposed, to be honest he already won. You are in for a lesson in how elections work and disputes until Jan 20 is a safeguard in the 12th Amendment against guess what? Fraud. Aside from the betting money, I want to say one last thing, anyone with a computer that hasn't figured out what's been on is brainwashed, even the inventor of e-mail stepped to expose the fraud with a very accurate data analysis, but don't worry, the US Supreme Court which has accepted the case filed by the State of Texas today and will accept other cases as well will safeguard the US people, as well as ensure that many traitors who tried to steal this election will go to jail. Luckily the US Supreme Court doesn't listen to the media otherwise the Deep State would've won. Going back to the bet issue, this is not a request, this is an official notification. Stake make it right or pay the consequences, also, delete that statement or update it because it doesn't look good on your company, it makes you look unexperienced, personally and politically biased and potentially engaging in an act of bad faith by leveraging illegal risk solely based on your opinion. Stake (like media) doesn't decide elections. I trust more your odd provider at this point.

Anyways, for who's interested in unbiased reporting you can find all about the election live and in real time here: https://www.theepochtimes.com/

I will not answer to casual news consumers that don't employ research and talk the media rhetoric like good puppets. This is just a statement for Stake to read because A LOT of Trump bettors may think the same but don't have the legal knowledge to correctly articulate this. My statement aims to defend them.

Whitepaper for those who actually want to research: https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/1359230/Electoral_College_Deadlines_White_Paper.pdf?p=pdf

I hope I don't have to take any legal action along with Trump bettors and I hope that Stake as they say in the last part of their statement "will do its best to employ logic and reasonability around the outcomes as more information comes into play" but be assured that there is no interpretation, your odd provider is right, you shouldn't have agreed to be exploited by ignorant people that don't know how election works, you had all the legal rights to refuse early pay and that was a more professional way to handle it because such bettors were not legally entitled to nothing, but as long as the real winners get treated fairly, I don't care who Stake donates to.