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Re: Users who are blocked without even writing a single post on the forum
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ranochigo
on 16/01/2021, 12:45:28 UTC
Also, many newbies will not know about this and ways to go and just leave the forum because they do not even know much about bitcoin and bitcoin wallet.
Do you need an account to see the posts? Most newbies that only seeks to use Bitcoin probably won't bother to use the forum at all.

I suggested this forum for more information and he tried to register.
He got this message saying he had to pay to unblock himself.
He tried to register from home and I'm 100 % he didn't use public VPN but IP from his Internet provider.
Of course he has completely given up on this forum and has no plans to pay anything.
Even if he wanted to pay he can't because he's just heard about bitcoin, he doesn't even have an open btc wallet, nor does he even know how bitcoins are sent or received.
He's a complete beginner on this and it's really funny of people like that, who by mistake or by chance ended up on this list, to ask them to pay to unblock themselves.
It's just not right and fair and no one can convince me otherwise.
That's unfortunately one of the tradeoffs associated when you have to actively try to fight spammers. If you were to take away evil score, it would be way easier for the forum to be filled with SEO spams since you don't have the need to rotate the IPs when creating an account. It's not possible for them to hide a newbie's post because it would be tedious for mods to be sifting through the numerous posts every single day on top of the normal spams. Newbie jails or any sort of it's derivatives does not serve useful in the long term; limiting newbie's discussions to a section will inevitably result in a single section having way lower quality posts than the rest and wouldn't result in most of the normal forum users to be engaging in discussions in that section. What's the use if you were to create a ringfence around them and not letting them discuss on the other parts of the forum?

Evil score is probably here to stay. Most users shouldn't be facing too much of an issue when joining unless their IP range has been infested with spammers and/or their ISPs assigns a very small IP range and you happen to be in the same IP range as the spammers. Here's a visualization of the evil score situation back in 2018: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4101785.0.

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.