I see there are some questions that keep popping up again and again. Might as well pop in to see if I can help in some way.
At what point does it become pointless to use our GPUs?
If the current n-factor gives me 120/150 KH/s for my 280Xs/290, the next will be be 60/75 and then 30/38. I will still be able to mine the same number of coins with these hash rates? Just trying to figure out how long my 4 280Xs and one 290 have got with this coin/scrypt.
N = 14 07 / 12 / 14 @ 04:20:16am UTC At this N and beyond it will be more cost effective to mine with CPU.
Absolutely incorrect. I have done extensive work with YACoin, which is currently at N=14. If you know what to look for in a card and how to work with it, the GPU is extremely more efficient. My findings are out there if you do your research. If you can't find it, the summary is : 2.9 KH/sec with a GPU consuming 25watts - compare that to any cpu and it favors pretty well.
I would like to know why does n-factor not affect cpu's. yeah yeah memory intensive, multiple threads, ram. i got all that, but if hashrate halves for cpu's as well, which I don't know if it halves, then wouldn't cpu mining still get harder over time as n-factors increase?
Can someone who has been cpu-mining AND experienced any n-factor change answer?
Been wondering this since day 1. Defo needs an answer.
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Both CPU and GPU are affected similar, in terms of dropping hash rate each N increase. However, the gap in actual hashrate gets smaller with higher N. As well, CPU's actually "fall-off" slower in hash slightly than gpu / perform better later.
For example 600khs GPU with N increase may be similar to; 600>290>130>60>25>10>5.
Comparing this to a CPU over same N increases; 125> 65> 35> 20> 10>5>2.5
Not bad, but what it actually boils down to is that the GPU runs out of memory to provide enough of a scratchpad to fully utilize all the shaders on the card without increasing the lookup gap, which in itself slows the hashing down.
In the end it's not that CPU's hash way faster than GPU's at high N's; specifically, it's that CPU's cost less Watts per Kh/s to mine at higher N's.
Some examples of hash rates and setups with CPU's and GPUs @ N = 14; can be seen here -
http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_ComparisonYou can see, as an example here @ N14
2x E5645 Procesors 2x 80W -- 1.53Kh/s
7950 GPU (250w) 1.3-1.5 Kh/s
That's a poor comparison from the page. What is unfortunately missing from that page is the amount of memory the card has - this is the most important aspect of how the card will perform at N=14. I've put that info into many of the entries I've posted, but I'm not the only contributor. The Xeon you quoted is actually mine, and it is horribly inefficient! To get that, the server is running at over 400 watts, and I get a whole 1.53KH/sec (at idle it's over 260Watts), but I only get 1 miner out of it! With a GPU mining machine, I can run 4 cards giving 10+ KH/sec for 200 Watts. Actually, if you following cudaminer, the nvidia 750ti has come along and is now getting over 3 KH/sec for < 60Watts too.
There are a few CPU miners. One is listed on the Ultracoin forum too. However, there is one specific miner that is best and most up to date.
-Manual N parameters for multiple coins
-X86 and 64bit formats
-Stratum pool capable
-Scrypt optimizations for Scrypt-Jane
https://github.com/thirtybird/cpuminer/releases/This is the absolute best CPU miner out there currently. I believe it has all the needs being asked for.
Even though I'm not actively posting here; I still hate to not help if I can.

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